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Old 01-17-2015, 08:37 PM   #401 (permalink)
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they're rioting cause they don't like some cartoons. do we stop printing such cartoons? is that what you're saying?
Yes.

Or in your words, "Self Censorship".
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Old 01-17-2015, 08:42 PM   #402 (permalink)
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Yes.

Or in your words, "Self Censorship".
So it's not so much yelling fire in a crowded theater that you're opposed to, it's ever using the word "fire" for any reason in any time or place whatsoever.
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Old 01-17-2015, 08:46 PM   #403 (permalink)
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So it's not so much yelling fire in a crowded theater that you're opposed to, it's ever using the word "fire" for any reason in any time or place whatsoever.
Come on man.

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You are the editor of a small town newspaper. A well known violent thug lives with his mom on the same street as you. One day you publish a cartoon of his mom with the caption "I need to get laid". When asked why you did it you say "It's my right to do so". That night a rock comes through your window.

The next day you publish a cartoon of the thug's mom making out with a donkey. When asked why you did it you reply "Free speech baby". That night your backyard shed gets torched.

The next day you publish a cartoon of the thug's mom naked and getting boned from behind by the donkey. When asked why, considering how much the thug adores his mom, you reply "Hey, she's not my mom. I don't adore her". That night the thug breaks down your door and beats you to death.
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That's not a very accurate metaphor. Western cultural values and middle eastern cultural values don't come from the same "small town".
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Western cultural values and middle eastern cultural values don't come from the same "small town".
Bingo.

That's the reason we shouldn't reference "western culture" morals when dealing with "extremist middle eastern" morals.
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Bingo.
Well, I'm glad we can agree that it was a weak metaphor.
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Old 01-17-2015, 09:24 PM   #407 (permalink)
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Yes.

Or in your words, "Self Censorship".
Like I said, anybody willing to kill over a cartoon needs to be called out on their stupidity. And comedy is some of the most effective commentary.
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Old 01-17-2015, 09:38 PM   #408 (permalink)
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Bingo.

That's the reason we shouldn't reference "western culture" morals when dealing with "extremist middle eastern" morals.
true, but since we're talking about france i think "western culture" morals should apply.

edit - this is why i kept facetiously saying you guys should be deported to iraq. you seem to want "extremist middle eastern" morals to apply, well there are places like that for you already.
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this is why i kept facetiously saying you guys should be deported to iraq. you seem to want "extremist middle eastern" morals to apply.
Again, come on man. So f*cking lame to post that.
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well, that's just how it seems to me. you support censorship to appease these terrorists, that is basically allowing their rules to apply to us imo.

i'm not saying any of this to insult you chula. it's just the way i see it.
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