Ninetales

uh I personally think this whole thing is pretty shocking. how many cartoonist get killed per year because of their cartoons? how many people that write satire about islam end up getting murdered? I mean you can use the "poke the bear" thing all you want but this isn't a high probability event

Chula Vista

Actually, by modern definitions it is.

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Frownland

I agree with this. I wish I was as enlightened as Chula or TH to the point where I can wake up ready to hear about deaths on the part of extremists. Would have made 9/11 a lot easier to deal with.

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Unknown Soldier

That's because you're civilised and they're not.

The word racist has different connotations not just in different countries but also linguistically. In the example of France, the country as far as western Europe goes has had more 'racial issues' than any other since WWII.

If you take the country's deep colonial roots, the Algerian problem, the huge African and Muslim immigration cycles over the years, the history of racially incited riots, the strength of the French National Front movement, the freedom of speech by both extremists on both the right and the left, the history of satirical literature to print whatever it wants and the country's unique and direct political agenda on foreign affairs, has certainly created a country of severe cultural divisions that has really been evident since the 1960s.

So yer the country is certainly far more racist than the UK is most aspects, largely due to some of the divisions I've mentioned above.

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grindy

Nothing about religion there.

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Chula Vista

Come on man, that's not what we are saying at all. The event itself is shocking as all hell. Why it happened is not.

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Trollheart

Of course they shouldn't have been killed. I have gone to great lengths to explain this. However, if someone says "Do that again and I'll kill you" and you KNOW they mean it, and you do it again, how can you be surprised that they carry out their threat? We're not living in Utopia. Sometimes you need to use common sense in your life, and understand that some things are bigger and more important than your ego.
Every single time there is a cartoon depicting Mohammed there are riots, death threats, and so on. Not everyone gets killed, but you can see it pisses them off so why would you continue to court disaster?
That doesn't even deserve an answer. It's so beneath you man.
Nobody wants to understand. It's so much easier to just pull what you want from what anyone says who voices a different opinion.

Once again, the police? Anyone? Or have you just to admit I have a point and can't defend it?

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James

That's accepting defeat. Compromising your freedom and civil liberties in the face of violence and cruelty. If I was them I would have absolutely carried on doing what I was doing. If we give violent people that much power in the world, then we're not free anymore.

grindy

I know this is not an exact analogy and bringing Nazi Germany into a discussion is seldom a good idea, but: What do you think of this guy?

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Trollheart

That's the kind of attitude that will get more people killed. It's not accepting defeat. It's accepting that you can't do everything you want to without regard for the consequences.

Is not going into a garden with a "Beware of the dog" sign accepting defeat? Is waiting to cross until the light is green accepting defeat? Is crossing over to the other side of the street when you see a gang of drunk lads falling out of a pub accepting defeat? Sometimes you have to use logic and use your head. Honestly, the kind of spurious reasoning being used here is unbelievable at times. Who cares if you can't draw cartoons of Mohammed? Wouldn't you rather be alive? Do you think your life is worth your expression of free speech, if that's how you choose to see it: I see it, as I have already said, as inflating your ego and being arrogant.

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