Greenpeace--liberalism at its worst

The Batlord · 12-13-2014, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Larehip

Poorer whaling nations argue that the need for resumption of whaling is pressing. Horace Walters, from the Eastern Caribbean Cetacean Commission stated, "We have islands which may want to start whaling again - it's expensive to import food from the developed world, and we believe there's a deliberate attempt to keep us away from our resources so we continue to develop those countries' economies by importing from them."[36]

So, you see, anti-whaling keeps rich nations rich and poor nations poor and so really isn't as altruistic as it sounds.

Tough ****. It sucked when we did it, and it still sucks. But by all means, lets let people destroy the environment in the long term for short term rewards. Wouldn't want to sound like a bunch meanies after all.

~~Lord Larehip~~ · 12-14-2014, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Tough ****. It sucked when we did it, and it still sucks. But by all means, lets let people destroy the environment in the long term for short term rewards. Wouldn't want to sound like a bunch meanies after all.

So you think we should tell people to lay down and die? Because that's the alternative.

You sound as if you believe that there is a long term plan unlike yesteryear. By all means, clue us in on what it is and who is implementing it. Long term plans needed to be laid long ago so things wouldn't get to where they are now because then it's too late. All there is now is the short term because everything is running out.

Zhanteimi · 12-13-2014, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Larehip

Once we learned to rape the earth for oil we stopped killing whales which was good because there weren't many left by then. Now we are dictating to other nations how wrong it is to kill whales. It wasn't wrong when we were doing it on a scale so massive we nearly wiped them out in only 150 years. I know--when we did it, it was IMPORTANT! When they do it, it's just wanton destruction.

Yep. Basically everyone is full of shit.

DeadChannel · 12-13-2014, 11:26 PM

I'm going to side with the batlord on this one. Killing off whales was a ****ty thing then and it's a ****ty thing now, but why should I (or greenpeace) feel like hypocrits about it?
Why do people need to identify with what their nationality/race/whatever did before they were born?

Which isn't to say I agree with what greenpeace has done here, mind you.

Zhanteimi · 12-14-2014, 07:22 AM

Agreed. But people are still full of sanctimonious shit.

Chula Vista · 12-14-2014, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by mordwyr

Agreed. But people are still full of sanctimonious shit.

Oh, for sure. Case in point.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...211-story.html

Key · 12-14-2014, 10:00 AM

And another Lord Larehip thread becomes pages of posts that are just tl;dr. May as well just use the spam thread next time.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 12-15-2014, 01:45 PM

nah, i want them to look like organic whales so that the japs go to hunt them and then out nowhere they open their mouths and a torpedo comes flying out.

~~Lord Larehip~~ · 12-16-2014, 04:26 PM

The whale's habitat and food sources are vanishing at an unsustainable rate. If you have too many whales, it vanishes that much quicker. Their numbers must be necessarily small because a single adult humpback whale eats 5000 lbs or more of plankton a day--two and half tons--every day. With plankton vanishing faster than it can reproduce, how long do you think that can go on?

The whale will be extinct or nearly extinct by 2100 and will go the route of other animals as the honeybee, the tiger, the polar bear, the koala bear and the rhinoceros. I just read today that a Northern white rhino died leaving only 4 or 5 left--in the world--and those live in captivity. And we can't keep whales in captivity like that, it has already been discussed and dismissed as unworkable.

We needed to address this problem decades ago and didn't and so now we pay the price. And pointing fingers is just stupid.

The Batlord · 12-16-2014, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Larehip

And pointing fingers is just stupid.

But that's all you've been doing. Pointing fingers at Greenpeace for being hypocrites. Pointing fingers at Quakers for killing so many whales in the first place. Now all you're doing is saying to let the Japanese kill whales, almost as if you just want to spite Greenpeace.

12-13-2014, 11:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
DeadChannel Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 1,259	I'm going to side with the batlord on this one. Killing off whales was a **ty thing then and it's a **ty thing now, but why should I (or greenpeace) feel like hypocrits about it? Why do people need to identify with what their nationality/race/whatever did before they were born? Which isn't to say I agree with what greenpeace has done here, mind you.

12-14-2014, 07:22 AM	#5 (permalink)
Zhanteimi Mord Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Tokyo Posts: 4,873	Agreed. But people are still full of sanctimonious shit.

12-14-2014, 10:00 AM	#7 (permalink)
Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	And another Lord Larehip thread becomes pages of posts that are just tl;dr. May as well just use the spam thread next time.

12-15-2014, 01:45 PM	#8 (permalink)
~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	nah, i want them to look like organic whales so that the japs go to hunt them and then out nowhere they open their mouths and a torpedo comes flying out.

12-16-2014, 04:26 PM	#9 (permalink)
~~Lord Larehip~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 899	The whale's habitat and food sources are vanishing at an unsustainable rate. If you have too many whales, it vanishes that much quicker. Their numbers must be necessarily small because a single adult humpback whale eats 5000 lbs or more of plankton a day--two and half tons--every day. With plankton vanishing faster than it can reproduce, how long do you think that can go on? The whale will be extinct or nearly extinct by 2100 and will go the route of other animals as the honeybee, the tiger, the polar bear, the koala bear and the rhinoceros. I just read today that a Northern white rhino died leaving only 4 or 5 left--in the world--and those live in captivity. And we can't keep whales in captivity like that, it has already been discussed and dismissed as unworkable. We needed to address this problem decades ago and didn't and so now we pay the price. And pointing fingers is just stupid.