Ferguson

Chula Vista · 11-26-2014, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

Well the cop claimed in his interview he pulled the trigger 2x and the gun didnt fire because Browns hand was holding the barrel, and the 3rd shot it finally fired. So, yeh..

I think he's totally tripping over his words because he's so lawyer-ed up and being coached.

DwnWthVwls · 11-26-2014, 11:52 AM

Possible, he also may not remember the event correctly like anyone in such a crazy situation. I'm still kinda torn over how I feel about this case. I don't appreciate witness testimony because people interpret things differently. Show me the forensics! (not you, just sayin)

Psy-Fi · 11-26-2014, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rezdaddy Longlegs

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...rown-case.html

All that plus reading the autopsy report makes me feel like that officer did the same anyone else would have done. This shouldn't even be seen as a race issue, what if Brown was white or Hispanic, would anyone give a **** about this case? Black people are treated unfairly by the police everyday, but why make this case the posterboy for the struggle when you dont know what the hell really happened.

I daresay if Mr. Brown had been any other race and/or the police officer had been black, this case wouldn't have received much news coverage or attention outside of the local area where it happened.

Sparky · 11-26-2014, 12:31 PM

just put the f'ing cameras on them already

Chula Vista · 11-26-2014, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparky

just put the f'ing cameras on them already

Just shut all of the cameras off for f*cks sake.

Sparky · 11-26-2014, 06:09 PM

you disallow it?

**Exo** · 11-26-2014, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparky

just put the f'ing cameras on them already

Paterson, Jersey City and Newark plan to equip cops with body cameras - News - NorthJersey.com

Looks like we're trying to set the example. For those of you who don't know NJ, these areas are very crime riddled.

Sparky · 11-26-2014, 06:17 PM

cool.

It's not even meant as a slight on cops. police complaints could be effectively discredited through the use of cameras as well.

**Frownland** · 11-26-2014, 06:19 PM

Several police stations across the nation are installing body cameras as a result of Ferguson. I haven't gone through all of the evidence yet, but I'm about halfway through and it looks like Wilson was justified albeit that he used excessive force on everything but the first shot. However, I think the heat of the moment kept him from pulling mace or a tazer instead of his gun, which he already had in hand. If I still have the same opinion when I'm done, at least the media hype is resulting in some good.

Ja ja I know I'm racist, you don't have to say it Soulflower.

WWWP · 11-26-2014, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Several police stations across the nation are installing body cameras as a result of Ferguson. I haven't gone through all of the evidence yet, but I'm about halfway through and it looks like Wilson was justified albeit that he used excessive force on everything but the first shot. However, I think the heat of the moment kept him from pulling mace or a tazer instead of his gun, which he already had in hand. If I still have the same opinion when I'm done, at least the media hype is resulting in some good.

Ja ja I know I'm racist, you don't have to say it Soulflower.

He wasn't carrying mace or a taser if I remember correctly from reading his testimony. I agree with you though, his reaction was excessive, but the entire encounter lasted about 60 seconds. It was an unfortunate case of succumbing to the heat of the moment. Is that excusable? No. Nor does it mean the race issue is not still present. But there is nothing to justify criminal charges based on the evidence.

Also re: the gun not firing initially - in his testimony he said Michael's hand wrapped around the barrel of the gun as well as his own hand, so he physically could not pull the trigger, even though his finger was on it and he intended to shoot.

11-26-2014, 06:19 PM	#39 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Several police stations across the nation are installing body cameras as a result of Ferguson. I haven't gone through all of the evidence yet, but I'm about halfway through and it looks like Wilson was justified albeit that he used excessive force on everything but the first shot. However, I think the heat of the moment kept him from pulling mace or a tazer instead of his gun, which he already had in hand. If I still have the same opinion when I'm done, at least the media hype is resulting in some good. Ja ja I know I'm racist, you don't have to say it Soulflower. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

11-26-2014, 12:31 PM	#34 (permalink)
Sparky not really Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,223	just put the f'ing cameras on them already

11-26-2014, 06:09 PM	#36 (permalink)
Sparky not really Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,223	you disallow it?

11-26-2014, 06:17 PM	#38 (permalink)
Sparky not really Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,223	cool. It's not even meant as a slight on cops. police complaints could be effectively discredited through the use of cameras as well.