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Old 09-19-2014, 04:20 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Please there is no Scottish independence. Like I am surprised. NOT. United Kingdom remains together. I wonder why the hell United Kingdom even exists in the first place?
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Old 09-19-2014, 04:24 PM   #32 (permalink)
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 09-19-2014, 04:27 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Please there is no Scottish independence. Like I am surprised. NOT. United Kingdom remains together. I wonder why the hell United Kingdom even exists in the first place?
In a nutshell, Queen Elizabeth I never married, so she named King James VI of Scotland her heir.
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Old 09-19-2014, 04:37 PM   #34 (permalink)
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In a nutshell, Queen Elizabeth I never married, so she named King James VI of Scotland her heir.
I hear you. Man Queen Elizabeth I was not married in her life. So unfortunate. For now, United Kingdom remains.
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In a nutshell, Queen Elizabeth I never married, so she named King James VI of Scotland her heir.
He wanted political union but all his attempts failed, it wouldn't happen for another 100 years after him being crowned.

The main reason Scotland joined the Union in the first place was because it's banks and it's nobility lost a fortune in failed investments in Panama and needed bailing out.
It had nothing to do with the English subjecting them to anything, they entered in voluntarily.
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We basically have got England to bail us out and have on several occasions. I'd rather have voted NO and have a safe future than have voted YES and just hope for the best when we became independent. If we went independent then the nations would have sat down together and drew up some information on economy, tax, etc... For the next 18months.. Why couldn't they have done that in the first place, then vote? I'd rather not gamble my children and grand childrens future like that not knowing what sort of country we would be living in.

It wouldn't have really matter much to me anyway if it had been a yes vote because my full family including my boyfriend would lose their jobs if they didn't move south of the border, so I'd probably be drawing up plans to move to London right now or if I wasn't with Kris then I would go travelling.

I think both the yes and no voters who have been at Glasgow George's Square in the past few days rioting, burning Saltires and Union Jacks should hang their head in shame, they are a complete embarrassment to our country and not a true representation of our people. We need to build a bridge and get over this divide and hatred that the referendum has caused. The nation has spoke and we are still part of Great Britain.

Most laughable thing on Facebook has been a number of people before they knew the results of the vote proclaiming that they were Scottish and proud, patriotic, more patriotic than a no voter... Then around 8hrs later were 'utterly embarrassed' be Scottish.

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^ That post pleases me.

& Yeah it's funny that, Scotland went broke then the English reinstated their wealth, how do people think the English would have treated the Scots if they'd left the Union?

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We basically have got England to bail us out and have on several occasions. I'd rather have voted NO and have a safe future than have voted YES and just hope for the best when we became independent. If we went independent then the nations would have sat down together and drew up some information on economy, tax, etc... For the next 18months.. Why couldn't they have done that in the first place, then vote? I'd rather not gamble my children and grand childrens future like that not knowing what sort of country we would be living in.
That's what I kept thinking while reading about this story. It seemed like there were a lot of big promises coming from the "Yes" leadership without much practical thought being put into them, for example the bizarre notion they seemed to have that they could break off from the UK without being saddled with their share of the UK's debt.
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That's what I kept thinking while reading about this story. It seemed like there were a lot of big promises coming from the "Yes" leadership without much practical thought being put into them, for example the bizarre notion they seemed to have that they could break off from the UK without being saddled with their share of the UK's debt.
I'm no Republican, and I voted for Obama, but a lot of that sounded like the same meaningless, pretty sounding, "Yes, we can!" sloganeering that he was doing during his first election. Gets the young people excited, but has no practical value.
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