John Wilkes Booth

i'm not asking cause i want to screw animals (promise). i was just thinking... what is the reason it's not ok to screw animals again? i have heard that it is wrong because sex requires consent.. but that only applies to humans. sex with a doll for example doesn't require consent. so if sex with animals requires consent then you are extending human rights to animals. in which case we probably shouldn't be slaughtering them cause we like the way they taste, or doing experiments on them that we think it would be unethical to do to humans.

the way i look at it either animals' lives aren't worth that much so we do what we please with them or they are worthy of rights in which case we are way out of line with how we currently treat them across the board. i'm having trouble finding the middle ground where slaughtering them is fine, keeping them in captivity for entertainment is fine, injecting them with **** to see what happens is fine, but screwing them is over the line.

another possible objection i thought of is maybe we consider exploitation of animals ok depending on the objective. so we consider food (farming), sport (hunting, rodeos, etc), science (experimentation), and education (zoos and ****) to be worthy causes for animal exploitation. but exploiting them for sex is wrong for whatever reason. as for what that reason is i'm not quite sure.

thoughts?

skyline

None of those are universally considered morally sound, they're fairly controversial topics, some more than others. People just draw the line at different points and the freedom to get yourself some literal tail doesn’t tend to rate highly as a worthy cause for most people.

Isbjørn

No.

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John Wilkes Booth

i'd tend to think eating steak is far less controversial than screwing a cow. yet i'm not sure why my taste for steak is more important than some pervert's lust for cow parts.

skyline

It's not just the food industry that benifits from cows.

John Wilkes Booth

i think my point stands.

skyline

Not really, a lot of products rely on the continued butchering of animals until they can find a sustainable/affordable substitute. I'm not sure there's one product out there that requires the cow to be ****ed. Eating is also a little more of a necessity than sexual gratification. I don't think many people consider the act of killing a cow a good thing, but to keep everything chugging along the way it has it's what we're stuck doing until some dramatic changes are made. Game on the other hand leaves a lot of waste, it's not something we rely on and I consider hunting to be more humane than farming. I still consider cooking pheasants to be of more use than ****ing pheasants.

Janszoon

It's ok to screw animals as long as those animals are human.

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John Wilkes Booth

but eating cows is still one of the primary reasons they are killed. there is an entire industry centered around raising cows to be butchered for food. and eating is more necessary that ****ing yet eating meat is not at all necessary. it's a matter of taste. people like steak and burgers so they kill cows to eat them. so explain to me again why that is important enough to disregard their rights but some pervert's sexual lust is not.

skyline

It is, and it's thanks to that that many products can be made affordable. Our realiance on cows for products other than meat is a byproduct of our diet, but that doesn't make it any less of a reliance. That entire industry built on butchering cows began as a necessity, before globalisation people didn't have the choices we do now.