is it ok to screw animals?

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 08-25-2014, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mankycaaant

I see animal testing as a form of torture. No animal is consented to being tested, to being made subject of scientific (and plenty not so 'scientific') experiments. No animal has signed a waiver or receives an incentive for being forced to partake. Is this really any more acceptable than bending a sheep over and shoving your cock on? Surely they've got to be on the same level. Surely nobody would think torture is a lesser crime than rape. Both are horrific obviously, but if we look at the sentencing each crime brings by law, torture is considered more severe in the eyes of the law. So surely, in the rules that uphold how we behave, what is marked as more severe there, surely should apply to our moral ranking of its severity also?

I completely agree with this.

Did you guys know that animals having sex with each other is vicious, sometimes painful and often not consenting?

For example, male cats have barbs on their penises which causes incredible pain for the female (or male) cat during intercourse.

DwnWthVwls · 08-25-2014, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by WhateverDude

Ah, I wasn't using logic. For the most part my responses have been entirely moral-based.

OP asked a moral question. Any answers a person would have is basically moral bartering. Even Bat's answers are.

I don't think you contradicted yourself, you just don't have any logical explanation for your beliefs on the subject. That's just how you feel, it doesn't have to make logical sense.

Not that I appreciate or agree with using the latter sentence as an excuse/reason, but I do at least recognize it.

Some people try to use logical reason to define morality rather than accepting natural tendencies/bias.

GuD · 08-25-2014, 09:56 PM

There's a place for logic and it's perhaps only incredibly rarely at the end of a moral question.

DwnWthVwls · 08-25-2014, 10:02 PM

That's baffling to me. Morality basically defines us as human beings and it's the one thing that most people are not inclined to be logical about.

I'm not singling you out. I know I am in the minority when it comes to this way of thinking(you should have seen some of the stares I got in my college philosophy/ethics classes).

GuD · 08-25-2014, 10:06 PM

I'm probably getting ahead of myself here, I'm basically a high school dropout... but what's so baffling about moral answers to moral questions?

Incoming potential complete derailment of thread.

DwnWthVwls · 08-25-2014, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by WhateverDude

but what's so baffling about moral answers to moral questions?

That people justify their moral answers without logic. Feeling a certain way about something just because you feel that way is not logical, it's emotional.

Education is overrated when it comes to crafting an intelligent argument.

GuD · 08-25-2014, 10:19 PM

And this is bad because...?

DwnWthVwls · 08-25-2014, 10:27 PM

For me, yes. I'm a fan of logic.

I didn't say it was bad for you or anyone else. I just happen to think it's a stupid way to approach defining a system of rights and wrongs and living one's life.

djchameleon · 08-25-2014, 10:32 PM

I don't get how you can use logic to define a system of rights and wrongs that vary from person to person.

You can do that to define your own moral position but not the position of others.

DwnWthVwls · 08-25-2014, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

I don't get how you can use logic to define a system of rights and wrongs that vary from person to person.

You can do that to define your own moral position but not the position of others.

I was talking about myself but I think others should also use logic to define their own sense of morality, which this thread(and life experience) demonstrates is clearly not the case.

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08-25-2014, 09:56 PM	#53 (permalink)
GuD Dude... What? Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,322	There's a place for logic and it's perhaps only incredibly rarely at the end of a moral question. __________________ I spit bullets in my feet Every time I speak So I write instead And still people want me dead ~msc

08-25-2014, 10:06 PM	#55 (permalink)
GuD Dude... What? Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,322	I'm probably getting ahead of myself here, I'm basically a high school dropout... but what's so baffling about moral answers to moral questions? Incoming potential complete derailment of thread. __________________ I spit bullets in my feet Every time I speak So I write instead And still people want me dead ~msc

08-25-2014, 10:19 PM	#57 (permalink)
GuD Dude... What? Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,322	And this is bad because...? __________________ I spit bullets in my feet Every time I speak So I write instead And still people want me dead ~msc