Atheism and its negative stigma...

Mondo Bungle · 12-21-2014, 12:26 PM

If you want

**Janszoon** · 12-21-2014, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mondo Bungle

And........................................... still waiting.

Yeah man, there's a lot of suffering, as God himself promised in the bible.

How did we suddenly jump from whether there is or isn't some kind of god to the claim of the specific existence of the Christian God?

Mondo Bungle · 12-21-2014, 12:29 PM

He's a god, he should count as an example I think.

It's my default too, since the only religions that I'm really knowledgeable about are Anti-Cosmic Satanism and Christianity. And a little bit of Buddhism, too.

Mondo Bungle · 12-21-2014, 12:44 PM

Hey I don't believe in God either, because, as you'd expect, of the lack of evidence. The only thing I'm saying is that I think it's foolish for anyone to say that there is or isn't with 100% certainty.

**Frownland** · 12-21-2014, 01:00 PM

If there is a god, he's probably more of an ******* than people give him credit for.

**Janszoon** · 12-21-2014, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mondo Bungle

He's a god, he should count as an example I think.

It's my default too, since the only religions that I'm really knowledgeable about are Anti-Cosmic Satanism and Christianity. And a little bit of Buddhism, too.

Sure, it's one example of a god, it just makes things more difficult to argue on "there is a god" side. If you're just trying to make the case for the possibility of some sort of deity, all you have to argue is that something that could be a god might be out there somewhere. If you go down the Christian God route, you now have to argue for the existence of a being named God who has a specific set of often contradictory attributes, and you also have to argue the validity of The Bible—which contains numerous well-documented contradictions and inaccuracies—and to a certain extent you put yourself in the position of having to argue against all other possible gods since God is supposed to be the one and only.

Mondo Bungle · 12-21-2014, 01:02 PM

Chula Vista · 12-21-2014, 01:04 PM

At Jans

**Frownland** · 12-21-2014, 01:06 PM

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Sure, it's one example of a god, it just makes things more difficult to argue on "there is a god" side. If you're just trying to make the case for the possibility of some sort of deity, all you have to argue is that something that could be a god might be out there somewhere. If you go down the Christian God route, you now have to argue for the existence of a being named God who has a specific set of often contradictory attributes, and you also have to argue the validity of The Bible—which contains numerous well-documented contradictions and inaccuracies—and to a certain extent you put yourself in the position of having to argue against all other possible gods since God is supposed to be the one and only.

The Bible's contradictions are pretty easy to account for because it was written by several different people, translated ad infinitum (sometimes poorly), and they were written under different circumstances, some more pressing than others.

Chula Vista · 12-21-2014, 01:10 PM

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The Bible's contradictions are pretty easy to account for because it was written by several different people, translated ad infinitum (sometimes poorly), and they were written under different circumstances, some more pressing than others.

Not to mention it was written over the course of about 1,600 years. How do you subscribe to a book that took over 25 lifetimes to get down?

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Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	At Jans __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”