Atheism and its negative stigma...

The Batlord · 12-21-2014, 09:34 AM

Chula Vista · 12-21-2014, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I consider myself an atheist because I have never seen any kind of compelling evidence for the existence of a god or gods.

I consider myself an atheist because I've seen way too much in this world that proves a God simply can't exist. If one did there's no way they'd allow the insane amount of pain and suffering that occurs on a daily basis all over this planet.

Xurtio · 12-21-2014, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

it's basically semantics tbh. nobody really agrees on what atheism/agnosticism really mean. i can explain it after work if u want or u can just google. long story short tho no atheist i've ever met actually claims to know for sure that there's no god. it's basically the stance that it's more logical to reserve belief in something until there is evidence for it. so like me for example i have no idea why **** exists and i don't pretend to. could be god could not be god. i'll let others decide whether that makes me an atheist or an agnostic or both but i'll throw in the stipulation that my opinion is it's more logical to not make the assumption of god until we get some indication that it's a valid assumption or at least a more probable solution to the problem, which i haven't ever seen so far beyond wishy washy apologetic rhetoric, some of which is very cleverly crafted but ultimately falls short imo.

Basically, gonisticism and theism are independent axes
You can be one of four things: gnostic atheist, gnostic theist, agnostic atheist, agnostic theist. The point is to separate belief from knowledge. A/theism is about belief a/gnosticism is about knowledge. A gnostic atheist is more likely to be a militant atheist becauase they think they know best. Similarily, gnostic theists are more likely to engage in extremist behavior to force their beliefs on others. Whereas agnostics on both side or more likely to have a co-existence mentality.

Mondo Bungle · 12-21-2014, 11:44 AM

Still waiting on the evidence that there isn't a god. Too bad that's something we just can't get, and same for evidence that there is, short of dying and ascending to heaven, but those people can't tell us anything. So, what's the evidence that the universe was just created out of god damn nothing? Were you there?

But after October 2018, we may in fact have the evidence of what went down back then. After the launch of the James Webb space telescope that could potentially see the big bang. That'll be cool.

I'm just saying, we don't know a damn thing. You can think whatever/believe whatever, but to act like you know something when you 10000% don't, it's just weird to me, and I don't agree with that.