Atheism and its negative stigma...

DeadChannel · 12-10-2014, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

It might be in public conscience because of media attention, but
to be fair persecution of Christians still exist in the world today.

Oh, I'm not disagreeing with that -- I'm simply saying that people not sharing your beliefs is different than persecution.

Zhanteimi · 12-11-2014, 12:01 AM

No matter your religion, persecution is when your human rights are curtailed simply because of your religious affiliation.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 12-11-2014, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

I don't think could be said (for example) of Syria, where 2.14 million people were forced to flew for the most part due to persecution. It isn't people who "just love to cry victim." They are victims.

i'm saying christians in america aren't feeling persecuted cause christians in islamic countries and christians in africa are actually persecuted. muslims are persecuted around the world as well, it's not something unique to christians. they are using the victim card to push their own religious agenda.

Neapolitan · 12-11-2014, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

i'm saying christians in america aren't feeling persecuted cause christians in islamic countries and christians in africa are actually persecuted. muslims are persecuted around the world as well, it's not something unique to christians.

How do you know that Christians in America "aren't feeling persecuted cause christians in islamic countries and christians in africa are actually persecuted." It could be very well they have some amount of sympathy for them, and while they are not personally being physically persecuted they have an understanding that part of a larger group they identify with are being persecuted. While they are not the same exact problems Christians around the world face, American Christians feel what they face is part of a larger picture of anti-Christian sentiment.

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

they are using the victim card to push their own religious agenda.

The Syrian Christians been practicing their religion for nearly two thousand years, I highly doubt recognizing the fact they were being persecuted as using a victim card or pushing an agenda.

Zhanteimi · 12-11-2014, 03:18 AM

I try to sympathize with persecuted Christians in Iraq and Syria, especially the women and children sold by the IS into sex slavery. This should happen to no one, regardless of religion.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 12-11-2014, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

How do you know that Christians in America "aren't feeling persecuted cause christians in islamic countries and christians in africa are actually persecuted."

simple common sense.

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It could be very well they have some amount of sympathy for them, and while they are not personally being physically persecuted they have an understanding that part of a larger group they identify with are being persecuted. While they are not the same exact problems Christians around the world face, American Christians feel what they face is part of a larger picture of anti-Christian sentiment.

feeling bad for someone else's persecution shouldn't give you the idea that you yourself are being persecuted, even if you identify as being a part of the same group as them in some sense. i might point to atheists being persecuted in islamic countries and cite that as a reason to believe that i am being persecuted for atheism in america. if i was desperate enough to whine about something, i might do that. but i don't have a fetish for victimhood, so i don't bother.

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The Syrian Christians been practicing their religion for nearly two thousand years, I highly doubt recognizing the fact they were being persecuted as using a victim card or pushing an agenda.

you really thought i was referring to the syrian christians with that sentence? i can never tell if you're trolling me, lol

RoxyRollah · 12-11-2014, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

persecution of just about any religious group can probably be found somewhere in the world. people just love to cry victim

oooo! And being a martyr too.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 12-11-2014, 05:02 AM

christians are sort of encouraged to be martyrs by their masochistic savior so i can sorta understand why.

RoxyRollah · 12-11-2014, 05:06 AM

Shut up^ and eat my flesh.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 12-11-2014, 05:18 AM

i would take that bait but it would feel like winning the special olympics to me. i need a more competitive sport.

12-11-2014, 12:01 AM	#102 (permalink)
Zhanteimi Mord Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Tokyo Posts: 4,873	No matter your religion, persecution is when your human rights are curtailed simply because of your religious affiliation.

12-11-2014, 03:18 AM	#105 (permalink)
Zhanteimi Mord Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Tokyo Posts: 4,873	I try to sympathize with persecuted Christians in Iraq and Syria, especially the women and children sold by the IS into sex slavery. This should happen to no one, regardless of religion.

12-11-2014, 05:02 AM	#108 (permalink)
~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	christians are sort of encouraged to be martyrs by their masochistic savior so i can sorta understand why.

12-11-2014, 05:18 AM	#110 (permalink)
~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	i would take that bait but it would feel like winning the special olympics to me. i need a more competitive sport.