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I'm pro gov when it works, anti when it doesn't. I believe it necessarily has to be complicated as no simple solutions would work. I would never be an anarchist since I don't see how it serves civilization to revert to jungle law. Leave that to the monkeys.

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1942236)

So what makes you think you're so special you deserve the mansion? There are not enough mansions to accommodate every single poor person, working class person, etc etc. Once you're in that mansion then you become the "elite" that the people on the outside hate. You become the new bourgeois, and they're be poor people planning to overthrow you.

Very good point. He would become the thing he hated, the hunter becoming the hunted, the punk becoming the punked.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1942238)

it would be me and comrades

And they'd be the new elite; your cadre of followers.

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1942249)

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Don't twist my words! I will have you sent to a camp and gassed before Sunday.

Reveal the votes m'lord.

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Originally Posted by Akai (Post 1942273)

Reveal the votes m'lord.

It's an anonymous poll, so we can't.

Ghay, I must know who the commies are m8.

I voted anal beads but you'd probably consider me a commie.

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1942279)

I voted anal beads but you'd probably consider me a commie.

Only if you complained about capitalism after purchasing said anal beads.

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Originally Posted by Akai (Post 1942276)

Ghay, I must know who the commies are m8.

Commie at heart YOLO by trade.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1942355)

I hate framing things as "pro gov" or "anti gov"

it's about being pro worker or pro elites, pro democracy or pro oligarchy

it matters that the gov serves our interests not simply if there's less or more of it

Yeah, pretty much. It's an oversimplification for sure. You can govern a nation in a million ways, so it's not just a question of "how much". I feel like people are a bit too willing to reduce everything down to a binary. Not on this forum - just in general when you see people talk about politics, ethics or morals.