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View Poll Results: Are you pro or anti establishment?
Pro; I believe the govt and its agencies do a good job 5 17.24%
Anti; I think they're corrupt right the way through 11 37.93%
Either don't know or don't care (so why are you voting?) 3 10.34%
anal beads 10 34.48%
Voters: 29. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-07-2014, 06:50 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I think the options given are far too black/white.

Government is great for some things, and horribly inept and ill prepared for others. Corruption is going to happen for either, but what is more concerning to me is whether government is a viable solution to a particular problem to begin with. If government is expected to solve all problems, then government is thus expected to control all things.

Personally, I'm more comfortable with judging individual policies versus opening up to the idea that government is inherently good/bad. That's too wide of a filter, and one or the other in such a state is bound to be a negative thing no matter what.
Amen duder.

Corruption exists. Better that corruption be controlled by greedy men than malicious men.

Of course... whether those men in suits are also the latter is debatable. I think money is important to them, but not too often is intentionally harming others unprovoked to gain the power of fear.
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Old 04-07-2014, 06:10 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Voting for anti because the current UK government are horrendous and just get worse and worse. I can count on one hand the politicians I actually trust and admire. However I do believe there is potential for good and I fully support the general ideas of government and democracy - it just seems like the bad tends to rise to the top.
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Old 04-07-2014, 06:44 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Like many before me have said, it's too complex a topic to vote one way or the other, just as it's impossible for me to identify as either politically left or right leaning.
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Old 04-08-2014, 07:57 PM   #24 (permalink)
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How do you define "establishment?" I'm very liberal and want much change. I guess that would make me anti, If the power that is in control is establishment, I'm very anti.
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Old 04-17-2014, 02:39 PM   #25 (permalink)
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If I were still 16 I'd say anti because that's the punk thing to say.

But at this point, frankly, I'm just as lazy and complacent as the stereotypical mass-consumer 'sheeple'. The difference between me and them is I spend my monies on boozes instead of trendy clothing and iPhones.

So, I guess that leaves me in the third category: not-giving-a-****-about-the-establishment.


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Old 04-24-2014, 09:51 PM   #26 (permalink)
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^ That kinda brings to mind, I was thinkin earlier today, how if I were a cop I'd pull people over to let them know it sounds like they have a wheel bearing loose or need a coolant flush or something. I'd pull people over to help them. There should be a job with that description.
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I want the establishment to be more oppressive to feed into the fears of all the people that want smaller government or think that government is too invasive as it is.

It's like I want to punish/troll them.

All the ones that think the government is coming for mah guns by creating false flag events.

Going around saying that school shootings are fake and other mass shootings are fake. Sandy Hook was a hoax, Orlando night club was a hoax.

Bull****! I want to terrorize those people and everyone else will just be collateral damage.
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