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Originally Posted by Freebase Dali (Post 1436402)

I think the options given are far too black/white.

Government is great for some things, and horribly inept and ill prepared for others. Corruption is going to happen for either, but what is more concerning to me is whether government is a viable solution to a particular problem to begin with. If government is expected to solve all problems, then government is thus expected to control all things.

Personally, I'm more comfortable with judging individual policies versus opening up to the idea that government is inherently good/bad. That's too wide of a filter, and one or the other in such a state is bound to be a negative thing no matter what.

Amen duder.

Corruption exists. Better that corruption be controlled by greedy men than malicious men.

Of course... whether those men in suits are also the latter is debatable. I think money is important to them, but not too often is intentionally harming others unprovoked to gain the power of fear.

Voting for anti because the current UK government are horrendous and just get worse and worse. I can count on one hand the politicians I actually trust and admire. However I do believe there is potential for good and I fully support the general ideas of government and democracy - it just seems like the bad tends to rise to the top.

Like many before me have said, it's too complex a topic to vote one way or the other, just as it's impossible for me to identify as either politically left or right leaning.

How do you define "establishment?" I'm very liberal and want much change. I guess that would make me anti, If the power that is in control is establishment, I'm very anti.

If I were still 16 I'd say anti because that's the punk thing to say.

But at this point, frankly, I'm just as lazy and complacent as the stereotypical mass-consumer 'sheeple'. The difference between me and them is I spend my monies on boozes instead of trendy clothing and iPhones.

So, I guess that leaves me in the third category: not-giving-a-****-about-the-establishment.

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**** cops though. Seriously.

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****ing pigs, ****ing pigs,
war against the ****ing pigs,
stab them with some dirty rigs,
bury them under dirt and twigs,
gotta hate that gang of ****ing pigs

^ That kinda brings to mind, I was thinkin earlier today, how if I were a cop I'd pull people over to let them know it sounds like they have a wheel bearing loose or need a coolant flush or something. I'd pull people over to help them. There should be a job with that description.

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Originally Posted by Nathan Hale (Post 1752798)

Pro; I believe the govt and its agencies do a good job

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**** establishments especially eating ones!

I want the establishment to be more oppressive to feed into the fears of all the people that want smaller government or think that government is too invasive as it is.

It's like I want to punish/troll them.

All the ones that think the government is coming for mah guns by creating false flag events.

Going around saying that school shootings are fake and other mass shootings are fake. Sandy Hook was a hoax, Orlando night club was a hoax.

Bull****! I want to terrorize those people and everyone else will just be collateral damage.

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Originally Posted by Nathan Hale (Post 1752798)

Pro; I believe the govt and its agencies do a good job

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