Did not know about this but glad yourself and Schuyler are ok. Scary scary stuff. Totally agree with Ebert: the media make these things into something that almost glorifies the killers/bombers. Remember the Boston bombers? Of course you do. But do you remember more the people who died or the scumbags who carried out the atrocity?

Whose face was on magazine covers, newspapers and TV screens? Who got more "media attention" and who was talked about more on the internet?

Case proven, and closed.

But as I say, great that you two are ok. Condolences to the victim. Sad day.

Alright can we agree to not turn yet another mass shooting story into some twenty-seven page diatribe between pro-gun/anti-gun people? Cause once we're down that rabbit hole this thread is going to get completely jacked.

Don't worry it wasn't even a mass shooting.

the last post before yours was two days ago. Why even bother saying that?

You are so late and the thread didn't even go that far down that route.

What's with the hostility?

I'm not really hostile just asking out of curiosity because it just seems like something that didn't need to be said. The thread discussion was pretty much over and we didn't go that far into have the whole pro-gun/anti-gun discussion.

I just got this thread pointed out to me an hour ago. I honestly didn't know it even existed before let alone that it was dead.

Hmm, I think people have the right to know who does what crime. If you know the victims, I think you should be able to know the ones who committed the crime as well. I think, and some people might be a little irked by this, they're the more important subjects. They're the ones you can learn from. Not that the victims aren't important, or that they didn't have something important to say, but they're just normal people who dealt with their problems in a healthy, normal way.

I think the root of the problem is usually just mental illness. These kids are delusional, or they're fixating on certain ideas and losing touch with reality at some point. For example, one of the Columbine shooters compared the mission to his favorite video game, Doom, so I definitely think it played a part in his mindset. I don't think video games are at fault, though. You'd have to read some of the killers' journal entries, but they were both very dark creatures. Harris was very angry, and obviously wanted to make a statement to society, whereas Kleibold was just very depressed. I don't think you can really blame video games, Quentin Tarantino movies or the media for any of that, but people will continue to say that's what does it. If you watch too much TV, if you play too many video games, spend too much time on the internet, or listen to the wrong kind of music, you're not living in reality.

It's sort of a chicken-egg thing. I think it's much more logical that these guys were mentally ill before they started playing video, seeing as though there are no studies that can prove that any forms of entertainment can cause mental illness, and it's usually something that you develop as you grow up.