Court documents were released this yr of mj. Lots of random porn found includin young boys and gay stuff and I do think he was whacked out enough to not understand how bizarre he was but there's no way I will ever believe one of those kids didn't wake up with the remote control pressing against them. Id link the court docs if not on my phone

As fir lostprophets I don't know why anyone would think bandmates would know. Theres deviance in all of us tgat nobody knows

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, fool me 24 times and I have to produce receipts? non-sense

I can't support him or his music because those allegations are very credible. If you want to turn a blind eye to it all, that is on you.

The gay stuff means nothing and these young boys could have been of age. Not that I'm entirely convinced regarding the porn anyway.

Also how many of these kids actually made claims against MJ? If he was noncing then surely there'd be more than just Jordy Chandler (and that case is easily discredited on the grounds of his dad being a cunt and a jealous bastard) considering the plethora of kids who went to Neverland and also the 2nd allegation wasn't exactly solid was it?

This is odd. MJ tells the world he let these kids sleep in his bed then only when the shitstorm erupts does he decide to start noncing one of them? Na.

The boys were under 14 in the pics. Mj had a bunch of books that are legal and not technicalky porn that contained these photos and I brought up the gay aspect just as a sort of proof that mj liked men and especially underage boys. No question hes a pedo. Tbe qyestion is whether he's a molester. Unfirtunately those two wirds are often synonyms when there's a big difference.


Nothin wrong with bein attracted to underage ppl. I defy a straight man from googlin allison stokke or claire abbott and not thinkin they are attractive sorry I'm not sorry for tgat comment. But he was sleepin in bed with kids I mean cmon, we can all realize he was incredibly strange I don't think its a stretch ti think he touched a kid or two while they slept together and in fact I find it likely

You just said it was porn though? There could be any number of reasons for owning those books, if he even did own them. If this guy is committed enough to nonce why wouldn't he be committed enough to get some real porn?

MJ didn't break any rules.

You can't say there's no question he was a paedo when the crux of your argument is 'sort of proof' and assumptions you've made yourself.

It's not a stretch but that means nothing. It doesn't make him guilty.

I'm not tryna go to court and convict him lol. The files weren't explicit illegal child porn but they contained pics of young nsked boys in books. Think what you want of that but I font kno any non pedophiles who have a handful of books around with naked 12 yr old boys. D o you?? These aren't asdumptions lol its factual he had nany pics of nude ir semi nude young boys in his possession so what other definition do you use for pedo

A quick Google search returns the following:

So is he gay or not then?

2nd bit is very vague also.

Possessed legal porn? Throw him away and lock away the key ffs :mad:.

This documentary is on Youtube ffs :D. **** it, will watch it tonight then maybe hand myself in to the police in the morning. Depends how I feel tbh.

This is weird but no more than admitting to sleeping in a bed with kids.

Here's the book - The Chop Suey Club: Bruce Weber: 9781892041197: Amazon.com: Books

They don't look 12 years old to me.

How old would Prince have been? Reaching tbh.

I'm not convinced, especially since you originally said it was under age porn but it actually wasn't. If this is the strongest evidence against him then it's piss poor.

The pics of boys were underaged thats not up for debate its just facts. I find it idd that you or anyone would just brush off the fact he slept with kids regularly as uf that's in aby way appropriate. Also lol at semantics. .. ok replace gay with bisexual and carry on. As if u didn't ass already jnow the whole point of bringing it up was to show ge liked dudes

I'll wait for you to post the facts when you can then because none of what I could find says anything about the pictures featuring naked under age boys. Considering how biased it is and how they've clearly got an agenda, I think if they did find child porn there would be no ambiguity in what they're saying, they would just say 'CHILD PORN FOUND IN WACKO JACKO'S BEDROOM', not photos of near naked male models/boy's underwear (even though he has two sons) etc.

I've posted the book mentioned and those models are clearly over 18.

MJ was an oddball. I would not let my kids sleep in a bed with any adult. This does not make him a nonce and just because I'm saying it doesn't that doesn't mean I condone it. MJ was very naive thinking he could do that and nobody would bat an eyelid.

Maybe he was bisexual, maybe he wasn't.

The thing people tend to forget about Michael Jackson is that he never really saw himself as an adult: the guy was pushed into the adult world from the time his family realized he could outsing all of them by a country mile way back in the early 70's. Never had a normal childhood, never even really got to hang out with kids his own age. Part of why he even had Neverland built in the first place was because he emphasized with kids more than adults and probably got along with them better than actual people in his age range.

Again, Jackson was a weird guy who was naive to the extent where we'd probably call him a "manchild" here in 2013. But hey, he's also the single most successful singer/songwriter/performer in all of human history, and there's never been any hard evidence that he ever did any of the pedophilic acts he was accused of. Knowing what I know about him based on interviews, his career, etc...I'm inclined to believe he was falsely accused. We'll never ever completely know one way or the other, but the guy was so childlike himself its hard to believe he's ever had sex with a consenting adult, much less a kid.

Guys like Ian Watkins though...yeah, burn 'em at the stake. :usehead: