gun control

Paul Smeenus · 02-12-2014, 04:30 PM

This will never ever change thanks to the gun lobby.

~~butthead aka 216~~ · 02-12-2014, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus

This will never ever change thanks to the gun lobby.

Why don't we just ask criminals to hand over their guns

YorkeDaddy · 02-12-2014, 04:42 PM

what a shock that the largest fully industrialized democratic nation in the world has the most gun-related deaths. i am truly surprised!!

YorkeDaddy · 02-12-2014, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

By your logic, if it useless to regulate guns because psychopaths will still break the law. Why have any laws at all?

wow what a great and well-thought out argument.

Laws exist so we can throw the people that break them in jail.

Just because they won't deter criminals doesn't mean we should just scrap them. Then we won't have legal backing to put anyone in jail when they do things we can't have people doing.

Come on dj you're smarter than this.

Paul Smeenus · 02-12-2014, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

what a shock that the largest fully industrialized democratic nation in the world has the most gun-related deaths. i am truly surprised!!

It is not proportionate. It is not even close to proportionate. And it never will be thanks to the gun lobby and it's supporters. Good bye.

*edited to add: that graph is PER CAPITA, braniac

YorkeDaddy · 02-12-2014, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus

It is not proportionate. It is not even close to proportionate. And it never will be thanks to the gun lobby and it's supporters. Good bye.

*edited to add: that graph is PER CAPITA, braniac

why are you not understanding that America is unlike any other country on the planet and petty charts like the one you just tried to post holds very little water in a debate against someone that knows about statistics

These comparisons needs context. What you're saying is like saying: "hey, the obesity rate in Africa is really low, we should do what they're doing!"

Apples; oranges. There are no cities in the world like New York City. There are cities with similar or more people, but those cities aren't in highly industrialized, democratic nations. If you take out NYC, LA, Chicago, Detroit, Miami, etc, the murder rate from that chart you posted would be outrageously lower. The "gun lobbying" you're crying about, again, is meaningless. You can't take the guns away from criminals in the grand scheme of things. Outlawing guns would only result in the law-abiding citizens being forced into being unable to fight back.

I told myself I wasn't going to post in this thread, I can't believe I let you do this to me.

Paul Smeenus · 02-12-2014, 05:38 PM

Same stupid argument that got us in this position

Again, this will never change as long as you people keep drinking the NRA KoolAid.

It's like trying to talk rationally with the Flat Earth Society. Go ahead with your thread, I'm done.

YorkeDaddy · 02-12-2014, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus

Same stupid argument that got us in this position

Again, this will never change as long as you people keep drinking the NRA KoolAid.

It's like trying to talk rationally with the Flat Earth Society. Go ahead with your thread, I'm done.

Same stupid argument? You mean the argument that people deserve to be able to defend themselves? I have no association with the NRA or anyone. I have no political affiliation whatsoever. No one determines my beliefs except for me. Maybe take a look in the mirror, stop drinking the liberal koolaid, and listen to my argument with at least a hint of objectivity and consider the pros and cons of every stance. There is obviously no perfect solution.

I'm not sure why you think making guns illegal will change things but I guess you're imagining some dream fantasy world with rainbows and unicorns. Bombs are illegal, pretty sure there have been some people that have used bombs...relatively recently...

lol @ comparing pro-gun people to the flat earth society. That might be the funniest thing I've ever heard.

Paul Smeenus · 02-12-2014, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

I'm not sure why you think making guns illegal will change things

Pretty sure I didn't say that.

You and the likes of you are the problem

YorkeDaddy · 02-12-2014, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus

Pretty sure I didn't say that.

You and the likes of you are the problem

Yes, I'm the problem, the guy that doesn't own a gun and doesn't want one.