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Cuthbert 08-13-2013 02:35 PM

2 British girls arrested for drug smuggling in Peru
 
Anyone seen this? Thoughts?

Terrified Michaella McCollum Connolly and Melissa Reid locked up in Peruvian jail for 'cocaine smuggling' | Mail Online

Unknown Soldier 08-13-2013 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens (Post 1356774)

Personally I find the whole story ridiculous, I mean they were supposedly threatened at gunpoint by some Colombians to carry the stuff and they didn't know what was in there! But then again if they didn't know the actual contents that they were carrying, they must've surely known it was something highly illegal and they had plenty of time to avoid the actual scenario with customs, as I doubt the Colombians were going to walk through customs with them.

Personally I think they're guilty or they've been framed, but their story now rules out the second possibility.

To actually smuggle from somewhere like Peru is literally playing Russian Roulette. It's normally drugs or jewellery with the punishment for the former much higher. For those that do it and don't get caught the prize is high, but I'd say the chances of getting caught are even higher, especially when you consider that they could face 25 years in jail.

I didn't read your link, so it might have added something that I didn't know.

Circe 08-13-2013 04:10 PM

The link is Daily Mail, ergo it's useless junk that's not worth reading anyway. They're innocent until proven guilty as always but I'm sceptical about them not having either a willing part in this or a positive incentive to go through with it. Like Unknown Soldier said, if they were being threatened by some kind of cartel they would have had plenty of chances to get out of it.

Cuthbert 08-13-2013 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1356830)
Personally I find the whole story ridiculous, I mean they were supposedly threatened at gunpoint by some Colombians to carry the stuff and they didn't know what was in there! But then again if they didn't know the actual contents that they were carrying, they must've surely known it was something highly illegal and they had plenty of time to avoid the actual scenario with customs, as I doubt the Colombians were going to walk through customs with them.

Personally I think they're guilty or they've been framed, but their story now rules out the second possibility.

To actually smuggle from somewhere like Peru is literally playing Russian Roulette. It's normally drugs or jewellery with the punishment for the former much higher. For those that do it and don't get caught the prize is high, but I'd say the chances of getting caught are even higher, especially when you consider that they could face 25 years in jail.

I didn't read your link, so it might have added something that I didn't know.

A priest who has spoken to them says he reckons they were forced and flew to Morocco first then back to mainland Spain before heading to Peru, which has got to be bollocks. If they'd had said something at Madrid airport someone would have helped them surely? No sympathy from me.

They can't play the innocent card - there's no way some bloke grabbed them off the street and 'forced' them to smuggle drugs. I've not been to Ibiza but know loads of people who have plenty of times and the drug culture isn't actually difficult to keep out of. They must have been courting it, and there's no way they didn't know what they were letting themselves in for.

Even if the cartel never mentioned the word 'drugs' or 'coke', they simply can't be stupid enough to think some bloke wants to give them £8k to bring 6kg of dried fucking soup back from fucking Peru.

It takes a special kind of stupid to smuggle 11kg of coke. In suitcases. Flying from Peru to Spain ffs :D. They clearly thought they were Billy big bollocks and they have been caught out. Just stupid beyond belief.

So they should forget playing the innocent card. Hope they get the book thrown at them good and proper.

"Free holiday and £8k cash? What could go wrong?"

"Oh noez, it went wrong - no no, that doesn't count!"

Cuthbert 08-13-2013 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Circe (Post 1356839)
The link is Daily Mail, ergo it's useless junk that's not worth reading anyway. They're innocent until proven guilty as always but I'm sceptical about them not having either a willing part in this or a positive incentive to go through with it. Like Unknown Soldier said, if they were being threatened by some kind of cartel they would have had plenty of chances to get out of it.

First link I got off Google. BBC News - Peru drug arrests: Michaella McCollum denies wrongdoing

Unknown Soldier 08-13-2013 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens (Post 1356842)
A priest who has spoken to them says he reckons they were forced and flew to Morocco first then back to mainland Spain before heading to Peru, which has got to be bollocks. If they'd had said something at Madrid airport someone would have helped them surely? No sympathy from me.

They can't play the innocent card - there's no way some bloke grabbed them off the street and 'forced' them to smuggle drugs. I've not been to Ibiza but know loads of people who have plenty of times and the drug culture isn't actually difficult to keep out of. They must have been courting it, and there's no way they didn't know what they were letting themselves in for.

Even if the cartel never mentioned the word 'drugs' or 'coke', they simply can't be stupid enough to think some bloke wants to give them £8k to bring 6kg of dried fucking soup back from fucking Peru.

It takes a special kind of stupid to smuggle 11kg of coke. In suitcases. Flying from Peru to Spain ffs :D. They clearly thought they were Billy big bollocks and they have been caught out. Just stupid beyond belief.

So they should forget playing the innocent card. Hope they get the book thrown at them good and proper.

"Free holiday and £8k cash? What could go wrong?"

"Oh noez, it went wrong - no no, that doesn't count!"

I shouldn't laugh as I do pity them, but the food stuff I saw did look like some fucking dried soup in packets:laughing: As you said, they were looking to make a load of money transporting the stuff and were certainly coaxed into it in Ibiza, that it was going to be easy money and no problems. I can tell you, that the typical mule carrier from these places are normally single males that are mostly young, so they're thinking that being two up-together girls that they were going to be risk free. They seem guilty of the crime based on the facts, but their bigger crime surely must've been their sheer stupidity. Lima airport is full of baggage searchers, sometimes they use sniffer dogs, the usual baggage x-ray and very frequent random searches of persons as well, it really is customs central. The deterrent to smuggle is there to see, because most flights to Europe usually have long-delayed queues while searches are taking place and flights to Spain are usually the worst.

Cuthbert 08-13-2013 04:43 PM

VIDEO: New footage of Michaella McCollum Connolly in Peruvian jail - Independent.ie

New video. They are eating donuts.

Feel really sorry for their parents.

hip hop bunny hop 08-14-2013 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Circe (Post 1356839)
The link is Daily Mail, ergo it's useless junk that's not worth reading anyway.

Why the hate for the Daily Mail?

Circe 08-14-2013 10:53 AM

It's a manipulative website that distorts and mirepresents facts and evidence in order to push a xenophobic, misogynist and generally hateful agenda onto the people stupid and naive enough to believe their miserable excuse for news, that's why.

Unknown Soldier 08-14-2013 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens (Post 1356852)
VIDEO: New footage of Michaella McCollum Connolly in Peruvian jail - Independent.ie

New video. They are eating donuts.

Feel really sorry for their parents.

I don't know why they're bothering about asking them if they've got enough to eat. That will be the least of their worries if they're found guilty.

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Originally Posted by Circe (Post 1357199)
It's a manipulative website that distorts and mirepresents facts and evidence in order to push a xenophobic, misogynist and generally hateful agenda onto the people stupid and naive enough to believe their miserable excuse for news, that's why.

Nicely said, couldn't have put it better myself.

Trollheart 08-14-2013 05:56 PM

Um, one of them is Irish...
It actually annoys me how they're presumed to be innocent (the Irish girl anyway) and the Irish govt is up in arms with nobody thinking for a moment: they were on a plane, at least once, and they couldn't get a note to someone in authority if they were being pressured or threatened? And it wasn't just a few grams: we're talking like 11 kilos here! They're lucky it wasn't Singapore: don't they have the firing squad for that there?

I'm sorry but I have no sympathy for anyone who allows themselves to get involved in something like this. There must have been a dozen ways they could have alerted the authorities. What about "arranging it" so that they had to go through the red channel or something? Innocent dupes my foot!

Cuthbert 08-14-2013 06:56 PM

She's from Northern Ireland, she's British.

Unknown Soldier 08-15-2013 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1357325)
They're lucky it wasn't Singapore: don't they have the firing squad for that there?

Lucky! 25 years in a hellhole prison or a firing squad, I know which one I'd choose.

Trollheart 08-15-2013 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens (Post 1357330)
She's from Northern Ireland, she's British.

*PUNCH!* The island of Ireland, therefore Irish! :bringit: :D
Also, it's the IRISH government who are looking after her there not the British. Stick to your own side of the channel, Brit! :rofl:

Trollheart 08-15-2013 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1357535)
Lucky! 25 years in a hellhole prison or a firing squad, I know which one I'd choose.

Well true, but a prison sentence can be commuted, even overturned. Unless you're in the world of Buffy or True Blood, once yer dead yer dead!

Cuthbert 08-15-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1357546)
*PUNCH!* The island of Ireland, therefore Irish! :bringit: :D
Also, it's the IRISH government who are looking after her there not the British. Stick to your own side of the channel, Brit! :rofl:

Haha I hear you. My granddad is from Belfast but tbh I don't consider him British but that's probably cos he hates us.

Circe 08-15-2013 01:58 PM

The ROI's people are looking after a Northern Irish girl? That's... unusual and intriguing. Is it standard practice in international affairs to give Northern Irish citizens that option? I'm assuming here that she requested them over the British because I can't imagine us being very happy to have Ireland stepping in to control our citizens without a reason.

Cuthbert 08-15-2013 02:11 PM

She's got an Irish passport.

Trollheart 08-15-2013 02:43 PM

I don't know the politics of it actually but I know the Irish ex-ambassador or something in Peru was helping out. Generally, when someone from Northern Ireland is involved in the news it's a field day for media: they can be Irish or British, so both the Irish news and the UK news are claiming her to be of their nationality.

But as far as we're concerned, anyone from our island is considered Irish. Why do they call themselves Northern Irish and not Slightly-West-of-British? ;)

It's like the old joke isn't it? When the Northern Irish boxer was punching hell out of his opponent the commentator roared in approval "Oh the British lad is doing well here!" But when he began to take punches and lose ground it was "Oh now the Irish lad is in trouble!" :rolleyes:

Cuthbert 08-18-2013 03:12 PM

Just saw on the news, they're both likely to be charged :cool:

Good news, hope these cunts rot.

Trollheart 08-18-2013 05:28 PM

Noticed too that when the Michaela one was asked her nationality she replied "Irish". Well I guess in the words of the bad ol' days, she's Irish as charged then huh?

Agree with ya Fluff: this story about being captured by a Colombian drug cartel: sounds complete rubbish. I've made my points on this already, and I think they were trying it on and now want to use their "innocent girls" attitude to get sympathy and weasel out of it.

Wait for the "Peru two" protests. You can be 100 percent certain they are coming. Wonder how many Facebook pages already set up supporting them? :rolleyes:

Cuthbert 08-18-2013 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1358738)
Noticed too that when the Michaela one was asked her nationality she replied "Irish". Well I guess in the words of the bad ol' days, she's Irish as charged then huh?

Agree with ya Fluff: this story about being captured by a Colombian drug cartel: sounds complete rubbish. I've made my points on this already, and I think they were trying it on and now want to use their "innocent girls" attitude to get sympathy and weasel out of it.

Someone said similar to me the other day. If it wasn't such a sexy case or it was a pair of chav lads from Hull nobody would give two shits about this.

I just hate liars to be honest, if they just admitted they fecked up and they regret it then fair enough, everyone deserves a 2nd chance, but they're so obviously lying.

That video of them eating donuts is weird as well, if you were innocent you'd be shitting yourself, they're just stood there smirking ffs :confused:, doesn't look like the body language of people who are innocent and being held in custody for something they didn't do.

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Wait for the "Peru two" protests. You can be 100 percent certain they are coming. Wonder how many Facebook pages already set up supporting them? :rolleyes:
The internet and it's online campaigns :D

Unknown Soldier 08-19-2013 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens (Post 1358762)
That video of them eating donuts is weird as well, if you were innocent you'd be shitting yourself, they're just stood there smirking ffs :confused:, doesn't look like the body language of people who are innocent and being held in custody for something they didn't do.
The internet and it's online campaigns :D

They think it's one big game and that Bond or the SAS are going to spring them anytime. I don't think they've fully grasped how serious the situation is either! You're right about the example of the chavs from Hull in that nobody would give a toss, it just happens that its two young girls from decent families, two girls you'd never expect in this kind of scenario.

Zer0 08-19-2013 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens (Post 1357330)
She's from Northern Ireland, she's British.

Residents of Northern Ireland have the choice between an Irish or a British passport or even both. Also NI is part of the UK but not part of Great Britain.

I think they're as guilty as hell. Michaela as far as I know has a huge drugs debt to her name and I'm guessing she saw this an opportunity to pay it off. They definitely didn't visit Peru for a bloody holiday.

PoorOldPo 08-19-2013 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Fluffy Kittens (Post 1357330)
She's from Northern Ireland, she's British.

She is British, she also happens to be Irish. Seeing as she is on the island of Ireland.

Unknown Soldier 08-19-2013 11:25 AM

I doubt after a few years in a Peruvian jail, she'll even remember where she's from.

PoorOldPo 08-19-2013 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1358974)
I doubt after a few years in a Peruvian jail, she'll even remember where she's from.

If she is even still alive.

Unknown Soldier 08-19-2013 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PoorOldPo (Post 1359030)
If she is even still alive.

This is really the crux the matter. It's not like they've committed a crime here in Europe or another area of the first world, where when somebody goes to prison there is a certain amount of accountability in what goes on. It's happened in a country like Peru that is uncivilised by our standards when it comes to certain things. I've spent enough time there over the years, to know what sort of stuff goes on there.

Cuthbert 08-19-2013 05:01 PM

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DRUGS mule Melissa Reid threw wild cocaine and ketamine parties at her Ibiza holiday apartment, we can reveal today.

The all-night partying was so out of control that one of her Scots friends who shared the flat came home early.

The girl – who we have decided not to name – said the drug parties were almost daily in the weeks leading up to Melissa’s shock arrest in Peru with £1.5million of cocaine.

She was so disgusted and worried, she boarded a flight back home to Glasgow three months earlier than planned, blaming Melissa for “falling in with the wrong crowd”.

And the girl revealed that during their last conversation, Melissa told her that she was also returning to Scotland after a flight to Barcelona “to see a man about a dog”.

Melissa, 20, of Lenzie,and alleged accomplice Michaella McCollum Connolly, also 20, have denied drug smuggling since their arrest in Lima last week.

The pair say they were forced to carry the drugs by an armed gang and feared for their lives and the safety of their families.

They claim they were kidnapped and forced to travel to Peru by a South American cartel who used a Londoner on the ground in Ibiza as a recruiter.

Yesterday, it emerged that Michaella, from Northern Ireland, had flown first class to Lima – claiming there had been no availability in economy.

Melissa’s friend – who broke down several times during our interview– told us: “Melissa put me at risk and since getting home I’ve just been waiting to hear something like this.

“I lived with her in Ibiza and I’ve been through hell. I know I did the right thing getting out of there.” The girl shared a flat with Melissa and two other girls.

But Melissa quickly befriended a new group of pals on the island who were constant visitors to their Las Piramides apartments in the party island’s San Antonio.

The friend added: “Melissa was in with the wrong crowd. When I had been working, they would come in after and just start partying.

“There was cocaine, ketamine and ecstasy at the parties. Melissa was taking the drugs.” The girl got work in a bar but said Melissa told her that she “didn’t need to work” after a few shifts at the Millennium Bar and restaurant failed to lead to a regular job.

Yesterday, the owner of the Millennium said of Melissa: “She worked here for two days but did not get the job. She did not fit in at the bar and with the people who work here.”

Melissa’s friend had flown out to the Balearic island in June with another pal for what she thought would be the working holiday of a lifetime.

Once there, they met up with Melissa and her friend and the four of them moved into an apartment together. She said: “I met Melissa once I was out there. I flew out on June 12 and the girls flew out on the 22nd and we moved in to the apartment the next day.”

The pals were soon enjoying their time in bars and clubs in San Antonio. But our source became concerned at the number of strangers coming and going from the apartment after being invited by the other girls.

She said: “People I had never seen before were walking in and out.”

Yesterday, other women who met Melissa in Ibiza also said she frequently talked about drug taking. Anita Cannon, 21, a Northumbria University student, said: “Melissa was always sitting round the pool talking about how many drugs she had taken, particularly ketamine. It’s all she talked about.”

Anita and 18-year-old pal Nicole Sangster – a former pupil at St Augustine’s High School in Edinburgh – stayed in a neighbouring apartment and were aware of one of Melissa’s flatmates leaving because of the parties.

The former flatmate added: “I told my mum everything that was going on the week before I came home and she said, ‘Get out of there. Enjoy the rest of your time there but you are doing the right thing’.”

The girl also revealed how she became suspicious when Melissa and another girl started seeing two young holidaymakers from Glasgow.

She said: “Melissa had been hanging about with these two Scottish guys. They had their own big villas and stuff. “I had met the boys and didn’t think anything at the time. But I went to the villa for one night just before work. They had a lovely big house and I wondered how two quite young boys managed to get a place like this for the week. “Melissa had been seeing one and an English friend had been seeing the other guy.”

The friend says the morning she was leaving Ibiza, Melissa said she too was going home – but instead of flying to Glasgow, she was going via the Spanish mainland.

She added: “I said to her, ‘Are you going home?’ She said, ‘Yes, but I’m not flying to Glasgow, I’m flying to Barcelona’. I said, ‘Melissa, why are you going there?’ She said, ‘I’m going to see a man about a dog’.

“I’ve never had to deal with anything so horrible. But even when I got home, I knew it wasn’t the end of it.

“The day that I left, I thought, ‘Is she really going to Barcelona?’ It just didn’t make any sense.”

Both Melissa and the flatmate were due to fly out of Ibiza on July 22. On July 30, Melissa took a flight from Madrid to Majorca and arrived in Peru shortly afterwards.

She and Michaella were arrested on August 6 at Jorge Chavez airport in Lima. Less than three weeks after the pal arrived home, she discovered that Melissa had been arrested.

She said: “The morning I found out what had happened, I woke up and found 42 texts and 10 missed calls. “I thought, ‘What the hell’s going on here’. I just thought, ‘Oh my God.’

“One of my friends phoned me and asked if I had read about it? I read the story and it was about the Michaella girl… and then I saw Melissa’s name. “My heart sank and I was shaking. I just sat staring at the wall and thought, ‘I need to phone my mum’.

“I’ve not heard anything from our other pal who shared the flat as we all had a huge argument before I left and I think they basically hate me. “I came home because I thought I was being pushed out my own apartment because of all of this. It’s been a rollercoaster for me. I just don’t know what to do any more. “But I bet Melissa is sitting there thinking that she wishes she had listened to me now. I watched the video of Melissa with Michaella after their arrest and I just thought, ‘How did she end up there?’”
Peru drug arrests: Pal of Melissa Reid reveals the alleged drugs mule held cocaine parties in Ibiza after 'getting into wrong crowd' - Daily Record

Whoops :D

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The head of Ibiza's police investigation into drug trafficking claims against two UK women has cast doubt on claims they were coerced into trying to smuggle drugs out of Peru.

Melissa Reid, from Lenzie near Glasgow, and Michaella McCollum, from Dungannon, both 20, are accused of trying to smuggle £1.5m worth of cocaine.

The pair deny the claims, saying they were forced into it by a gang in Ibiza.

But police said they had several opportunities to alert the authorities.

First Sergeant Alberto Arean Varela, head of the anti-drug and organised crime police unit at the Guardia Civil in Ibiza, said the claims ran counter to his knowledge of trafficking cases.

"Sincerely, with my experience, I don't think these girls were forced to do this," he told the BBC.

"Because, particularly when you go to South America, you need to pass several consuls so the first thing you [would] do is go to the passport consul and say 'Listen, this is what is happening to me', and the police will react - so I don't think they were forced."


Dr Jennifer Fleetwood, criminology lecturer at the University of Leicester, who has carried out research into the involvement of women in the international drugs trade, said their experience did not appear to be typical.

"We know that most drug mules are male - women represent about 20% but that does not mean that their story is not plausible... anyone who researches this [issue] finds people who have been coerced," she told BBC Radio 4's Today Programme.
The pair, who are expected to appear in court in Lima next week, could face lengthy prison sentences if found guilty of drug smuggling.

Ms Reid and Ms McCollum had been working at bars in San Antonio, the main resort for thousands of young British tourists every summer, when they said they were befriended by a man from London.

They claimed they were then forced at gunpoint to make the journey to Peru, shadowed by gang members along the way.

They were stopped on 6 August when they tried to board a flight from Lima airport to Madrid.

Police said they found more than 24lb (11kg) of cocaine in food packaging in the women's luggage.

The women have previously said they were unable to go to the authorities because the gang had threatened to kill their families if they did not co-operate.

The National Police of Peru released a video of the women being questioned just after their arrest.

In it, Ms Reid answers said: "I was forced to take these bags in my luggage".

Ms Reid's father, William, who has flown to Lima to see his daughter, has said there was no way she would have been willingly involved.

Ms McCollum's family issued a statement through their lawyer saying she denied involvement in any criminal offence.

Her lawyer left Belfast for the Peruvian capital on Friday.

"If she is charged she will be denying it," he told reporters.
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Pictures of them in Peru. They look terrified.

So basically:

- Marched through Spanish customs at gun point.
- Marched onto the plane at gun point.
- Sat next to gangster in first class for 6-8 hour flight to Peru - at gun point.
- Marched off the plane at Lima airport, (at gun point.)
- Marched through customs at gun point.
- Driven around Lima for a shopping expedition of a lifetime (presumably at gun point.)
- Bought shoes. Gunman forced them to carry their bags home.
- Back to Lima airport, still with a gun pointed at their big heads. And finally, 'hello Mr Customs inspector. This is my gangster pal, he's got a gun, you know... Oh, wait, where's he gone!'

Obviously these poor girls deserve the utmost sympathy for their terrifying plight.

Trollheart 08-19-2013 07:01 PM

Ah Fluffy! When did you become so cynical? :laughing:

Trollheart 08-19-2013 07:05 PM

I should add, before anyone accuses me of trivilaising this or laughing at their situation, that I like most people it seems find their story would have been better written by the Brothers Grimm, and have no sympathy for what appears to have been an attempt to seriously enrich themselves and at the same time bring pain and suffering to uncounted thousands in Peru. Or wherever the drugs were destined to go. Nobody who does this sort of thing ever gives a thought to the addicts, and those they will rob, maybe even hurt or murder to get the money to buy their drugs.

So any sympathy directed towards these two shining examples of youth is in my view totally misdirected, and I feel no compunction at sneering at their story.

Also, as others have said, were these two boozed-up lads or older women nobody would give a toss. It's all about youth and sex, which is pretty disturbing given the serious nature of the crime.

Who doubts too, that should something happen to one or both of them in jail the Irish and/or British govts, and their families too probably, will take legal action against, well, whoever they can?

Scarlett O'Hara 08-20-2013 12:25 AM

From what I've read, there no evidence of the girls being forced into it. I can't believed they are being on the video so casually, that I saw.

Janszoon 08-20-2013 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1359130)
I should add, before anyone accuses me of trivilaising this or laughing at their situation, that I like most people it seems find their story would have been better written by the Brothers Grimm, and have no sympathy for what appears to have been an attempt to seriously enrich themselves and at the same time bring pain and suffering to uncounted thousands in Peru. Or wherever the drugs were destined to go. Nobody who does this sort of thing ever gives a thought to the addicts, and those they will rob, maybe even hurt or murder to get the money to buy their drugs.

Trollheart, I love you man, but you have a really weird perception of what the average drug user is like.

Not that I have have any sympathy for these two. They're definitely morons.

djchameleon 08-20-2013 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1359281)
Trollheart, I love you man, but you have a really weird perception of what the average drug user is like.

Lol what do you expect? his only experience with the average drug user is probably through tv shows.

The Batlord 08-20-2013 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1359282)
Lol what do you expect? his only experience with the average drug user is probably through tv shows.

Dude needs to smoke a doob.

Cuthbert 08-20-2013 10:52 AM

I know their families are bound to stick by them, but one of their Dads (and the girls themselves apparently) saying 'they were forced to stand and smile on their balconies in Peru with a beer' as part of the set up is just ridiculous ffs :D.

This case :D. It's getting more desperate by the day.

They are without a doubt guilty. Photo's of them with well known gangsters in Ibiza too.

Trollheart 08-20-2013 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1359281)
Trollheart, I love you man, but you have a really weird perception of what the average drug user is like.

Not that I have have any sympathy for these two. They're definitely morons.

Yeah you're right Jasz I have no idea. Of course I'm not saying EVERY addict/user does this, but there have certainly been cases of people stealing, and even in the course of theft shooting/stabbing, to support their habit. Naturally I don't claim that happens in any percentage of cases, but it certainly has happened.

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1359282)
Lol what do you expect? his only experience with the average drug user is probably through tv shows.

Again quite right and again apologies if I seemed to be tarring all drug users with the one brush. I'm quite aware that there are a huge amount of people who, for the want of another phrase, use drugs responsibly. But that doesn't mean that there aren't those who don't, and they can be very desperate when they can't buy their fix. Or so The Wire tells me... :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1359391)
Dude needs to smoke a doob.

Not gonna happen man. I don't even smoke tobacco. No, not even harmless tobacco! :rofl:

PoorOldPo 08-20-2013 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1359391)
Dude needs to smoke a doob.

Dudes need to suck a boob.

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1359411)



Not gonna happen man. I don't even smoke tobacco. No, not even harmless tobacco! :rofl:

Neither do I. Tobacco is anything but harmless. I smoke weed, but I don't smoke tobacco.

Tobacco is ten times more addictive and harmful than Cannabis.

Trollheart 08-20-2013 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PoorOldPo (Post 1359417)
Dudes need to suck a boob.



Neither do I. Tobacco is anything but harmless. I smoke weed, but I don't smoke tobacco.

Tobacco is ten times more addictive and harmful than Cannabis.

I know: I'm quoting Burns: "Yes, the hippy you all knew as Wavy Gravy was me! And all this time I've been smoking tobacco! Harmless tobacco!"

The Batlord 08-21-2013 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by PoorOldPo (Post 1359417)
Dudes need to suck a boob.

I imagine the one would go well with the other. I wonder if there's some sort of procedure to make a woman's boob into a bong...


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