2 British girls arrested for drug smuggling in Peru - Music Banter Music Banter

Go Back   Music Banter > Community Center > The Lounge > Current Events, Philosophy, & Religion
Register Blogging Today's Posts
Welcome to Music Banter Forum! Make sure to register - it's free and very quick! You have to register before you can post and participate in our discussions with over 70,000 other registered members. After you create your free account, you will be able to customize many options, you will have the full access to over 1,100,000 posts.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-20-2013, 10:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: The Black Country
Posts: 8,827
Default

I know their families are bound to stick by them, but one of their Dads (and the girls themselves apparently) saying 'they were forced to stand and smile on their balconies in Peru with a beer' as part of the set up is just ridiculous ffs .

This case . It's getting more desperate by the day.

They are without a doubt guilty. Photo's of them with well known gangsters in Ibiza too.
Cuthbert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2013, 11:49 AM   #2 (permalink)
Born to be mild
 
Trollheart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: 404 Not Found
Posts: 26,996
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Janszoon View Post
Trollheart, I love you man, but you have a really weird perception of what the average drug user is like.

Not that I have have any sympathy for these two. They're definitely morons.
Yeah you're right Jasz I have no idea. Of course I'm not saying EVERY addict/user does this, but there have certainly been cases of people stealing, and even in the course of theft shooting/stabbing, to support their habit. Naturally I don't claim that happens in any percentage of cases, but it certainly has happened.

Quote:
Originally Posted by djchameleon View Post
Lol what do you expect? his only experience with the average drug user is probably through tv shows.
Again quite right and again apologies if I seemed to be tarring all drug users with the one brush. I'm quite aware that there are a huge amount of people who, for the want of another phrase, use drugs responsibly. But that doesn't mean that there aren't those who don't, and they can be very desperate when they can't buy their fix. Or so The Wire tells me...

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Batlord View Post
Dude needs to smoke a doob.
Not gonna happen man. I don't even smoke tobacco. No, not even harmless tobacco!
__________________
Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018
Trollheart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2013, 12:53 AM   #3 (permalink)
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: The Black Country
Posts: 8,827
Default

They've been charged



Looking at up to 15 years in jail. I was listening to the radio last night think they said they could be waiting up to three years for the case to go to court.

Instagram Her Instagram, tags ffs . #wongamaker .

Instagram Tag on this one made me laugh, #notcominghome .
Cuthbert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2013, 05:04 AM   #4 (permalink)
Born to be mild
 
Trollheart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: 404 Not Found
Posts: 26,996
Default

At least the Irish one's hair will ensure she gets a decent job in jail as the prison mop! They looked amazed to be charged: what did they think? The police were going to turn around and say, oh ok girls, you can go home now, just don't do it again?

As Mister Mister once said: welcome to the real world!
__________________
Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018
Trollheart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2013, 09:44 AM   #5 (permalink)
Zum Henker Defätist!!
 
The Batlord's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Beating GNR at DDR and keying Axl's new car
Posts: 48,199
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Christian Benteke View Post
Instagram Tag on this one made me laugh, #notcominghome .


Brilliant.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien
There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
The Batlord is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2013, 11:55 AM   #6 (permalink)
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: freely swimmin thru the waters of glory much like a majestic bald eagle soars thru the skies
Posts: 1,463
Default

im kinda confused about the general attitude from u guys. like yea these are two dumbasses but im not sure the reason for the rooting so hard for them to get locked away forever lol. maybe the media coverage is different for u guys so theres a perspective or angle im not seein, it just seems weird to me
butthead aka 216 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2013, 12:40 PM   #7 (permalink)
Born to be mild
 
Trollheart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: 404 Not Found
Posts: 26,996
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 216 View Post
im kinda confused about the general attitude from u guys. like yea these are two dumbasses but im not sure the reason for the rooting so hard for them to get locked away forever lol. maybe the media coverage is different for u guys so theres a perspective or angle im not seein, it just seems weird to me
Don't know where you're from 216, but it's because Irish and UK news are so (or were so) all "oh these poor girls! They were forced to do it! They're enduring a nightmare!" when in fact all signs point now to there being nothing of the sort. They tried it on and got caught, but instead of admitting that they're trying to act like they're the victims.

So fuck them. I hope they both rot.
__________________
Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018
Trollheart is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2013, 02:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
Horribly Creative
 
Unknown Soldier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: London, The Big Smoke
Posts: 8,265
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 216 View Post
im kinda confused about the general attitude from u guys. like yea these are two dumbasses but im not sure the reason for the rooting so hard for them to get locked away forever lol. maybe the media coverage is different for u guys so theres a perspective or angle im not seein, it just seems weird to me
I for one think they should be punished, but the 15 or 25 years in a Peruvian jail doesn't fit the crime. These were just two silly girls who were naive enough to get involved in something that they really had no deep understanding of. The 15 to 25 years should actually be for the dealers and cartel members and not the carriers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trollheart View Post
So fuck them. I hope they both rot.
I don't think you mean that. They were carrying cocaine which is a drug that is normally used by a higher quality clientele than the drug addicts that you probably have in mind, they buy it as an almost fashion accessory usually from choice or an addiction. Most users I've come across here in the UK, have been professionals or trendy types.

You also need to remember that in certain parts of Latin America, cocaine production is a vital source of employment for elements of the local population. Sure the drug barons are exploiting them, but without this income these people would be even poorer than they are now, Latin America largely has no welfare state, so if you don't work you don't eat.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by eraser.time206 View Post
If you can't deal with the fact that there are 6+ billion people in the world and none of them think exactly the same that's not my problem. Just deal with it yourself or make actual conversation. This isn't a court and I'm not some poet or prophet that needs everything I say to be analytically critiqued.
Metal Wars

Power Metal

Pounding Decibels- A Hard and Heavy History
Unknown Soldier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2013, 02:47 PM   #9 (permalink)
Account Disabled
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: The Black Country
Posts: 8,827
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier View Post
I for one think they should be punished, but the 15 or 25 years in a Peruvian jail doesn't fit the crime. These were just two silly girls who were naive enough to get involved in something that they really had no deep understanding of. The 15 to 25 years should actually be for the dealers and cartel members and not the carriers.
I think everyone understands smuggling drugs from one country to another is illegal and it is for this reason that they deserve the punishment. Whether you think the punishment fits the crime or not is irrelevant because they knew the risks.

'Shall we smuggle drugs from Peru and risk spending the best years of our lives in prison? No, that's a silly idea.'

Or...

'Shall we smuggle drugs from Peru and risk spending the best years of our lives in prison? Yes but if we get caught let's just say we didn't do it.'

They made the choice. The punishment is there for a reason. If they get something pathetic like 5 years and they serve half in a British jail that's not much of a deterrent to other people thinking of doing this is it? Nobody on this message board would attempt to smuggle 1.5m of cocaine back from South America because we know the penalties involved. This is a crime that everyone knows is illegal in pretty much every country in the world, a crime that will get you sent away for many years anywhere where you are caught. If they had been caught doing something that they didn't know was illegal I would have a bit of sympathy for them, however they committed a crime that even the most stupid of idiots would know about and would know that if you were caught it wouldn't be very nice for the next few years.

Would you go to an Arab country wearing nothing but shorts whilst swigging from a can of lager while your missus is in a thong and nothing else swigging a WKD? No you wouldn't because regardless of whether in England that would get you locked up, in the country you are in it is illegal, and as such you abide by their rules whether you think they are stupid and the punishment fits the crime or not.

They wouldn't be asking anyone to feel sorry for them if they hadn't got caught - they'd be in Ibiza living it up on their ill-gotten "wages". They played a game of chance and lost, fuck 'em. Should consider themselves lucky it wasn't Bali.
Cuthbert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-22-2013, 02:52 PM   #10 (permalink)
Born to be mild
 
Trollheart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: 404 Not Found
Posts: 26,996
Default

I most certainly do mean what I say. There was nothing "naive" about the way they got involved. The reports show that they were having drug-fuelled parties, meeting these "drug barons" and their representatives, and actively preparing to, as one of them said, "see a man about a dog", so they had more than enough cop-on to know what they were getting into. They tried to screw the system and the system screwed them. Not content with that, they tried to play the "little miss innocent" card, and when the evidence that blew that away surfaced they looked stupid and also manipulative, certainly of public opinion.

I don't agree with your contention that the drug industry provides employment and so it should be left alone. That's a specious argument. You could use that to justify any illegal enterprise. Anyhow I'm not necessarily saying the production of the cocaine is the problem, it's the fact that it's destroying lives and dividing families. I have no time for hard drugs --- or any drugs really, but I know some of you extol the harmlessness of things like weed and cannabis (are they the same thing?) and I have nothing terribly against them --- and no excuse will work as far as I'm concerned when it comes to these.

The punishment has to be harsh. Some people could do a three/five year stretch and go on to do the same thing again. A serious, tough message has to be sent and I think this is a good thing. You think any other stupid European girls or guys thinking about doing the same will be having second thoughts now?

I stand by my original comment. I respect your opinion but that is mine and it's not going to be changed. If as I said they had owned up then fine, but they tried to pretend they were all innocent, made up a cock and bull story and frankly deserve everything they get, and more.
__________________
Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018
Trollheart is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Similar Threads



© 2003-2025 Advameg, Inc.