Affordable Health Care Act

hip hop bunny hop · 09-24-2013, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

We need to have it in place and operating to find out if everything that's in the 20,000 page act covers all the unexpected problems that will crop up because of the act being in place.

This mindset perplexes me.

TheBig3 · 09-24-2013, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

This mindset perplexes me.

Think of it like a prototype. Trial, error, adjustments, perfection.

hip hop bunny hop · 09-24-2013, 10:24 AM

This isn't a prototype. It's a massive intervention into the economy by the state, at a time when the economy is still fragile overall and particularly so in those states (such as Illinois) that are still reeling from the consequences of such failed intervention into the economy. Further, entitlements aren't things you can "reform" away easily. There is no shortage of politicians whose campaigns are based on the notion of giving their constituents other peoples property - and once these voters receive the entitlement & become dependent upon it they will become an incessant, obnoxious political bloc.

TheBig3 · 09-24-2013, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

This isn't a prototype. It's a massive intervention into the economy by the state, at a time when the economy is still fragile overall and particularly so in those states (such as Illinois) that are still reeling from the consequences of such failed intervention into the economy. Further, entitlements aren't things you can "reform" away easily. There is no shortage of politicians whose campaigns are based on the notion of giving their constituents other peoples property - and once these voters receive the entitlement & become dependent upon it they will become an incessant, obnoxious political bloc.

It was a prototype in Massachusetts.

frankly, I can't explain why he wanted to give the backwater, no-nothings of this country healthcare. I'd say if you're not clever enough to figure out that healthcare can't really work in a market-system, then maybe you deserve to have your premiums jump 30% while insurance companies kick people off (increasing income and decreasing costs).

Then again, the premise of a joint-risk venture is probably lost on you. I live in a state that found a working solution, and we're fairly healthy to begin with. If you want to live in Fatso-ville where no one cares about their neighbors, then that's fine by me. Feel free to die there.

Edit: "You" is not referring to HHBH but the royal "you"

djchameleon · 09-24-2013, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

This mindset perplexes me.

I don't know why.

The only reason the act is as long as it is because republicans kept adding stipulations to it during the negotiation phase of the act.

Also with people like the Koch brothers throwing their money behind huge misinformation campaigns it's no wonder that people already have a negative opinion of the Act before it has even started.

CallMeTex · 09-24-2013, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

It was a prototype in Massachusetts.

frankly, I can't explain why he wanted to give the backwater, no-nothings of this country healthcare. I'd say if you're not clever enough to figure out that healthcare can't really work in a market-system, then maybe you deserve to have your premiums jump 30% while insurance companies kick people off (increasing income and decreasing costs).

Ditto that

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hip hop bunny hop Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,381	This isn't a prototype. It's a massive intervention into the economy by the state, at a time when the economy is still fragile overall and particularly so in those states (such as Illinois) that are still reeling from the consequences of such failed intervention into the economy. Further, entitlements aren't things you can "reform" away easily. There is no shortage of politicians whose campaigns are based on the notion of giving their constituents other peoples property - and once these voters receive the entitlement & become dependent upon it they will become an incessant, obnoxious political bloc. __________________ Have mercy on the poor.