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Old 10-03-2013, 09:43 PM   #121 (permalink)
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Yes, I was thinking of public option. I'm ambivalent towards it but lean away from it. The left wanted it so that makes me suspicious.
The left wanted single payer more than Obamacare. That's why so many on the left wanted a public option and those on the right didn't-it would pave the way for single payer.
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Old 10-04-2013, 08:57 AM   #122 (permalink)
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The left wanted single payer more than Obamacare. That's why so many on the left wanted a public option and those on the right didn't-it would pave the way for single payer.
When only one small faction of the political spectrum wants something, it's no good. So maybe the whole public option/single payer idea blows and that's why Obama took it out.
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Old 10-04-2013, 10:39 AM   #123 (permalink)
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Bill Maher videos. Bill Maher videoes being taken seriously. That's when you can tell your participating in a good discussion.
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Old 10-04-2013, 03:04 PM   #124 (permalink)
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When only one small faction of the political spectrum wants something, it's no good. So maybe the whole public option/single payer idea blows and that's why Obama took it out.
Except for the fact that we're not talking hypotheticals here-the vast majority of the top ranked healthcare systems in the world are single payer or close to it(ie if you need antibiotics for a sinus infection you may have to pay, but if you need chemo or surgery it's covered).
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Old 10-05-2013, 09:28 AM   #125 (permalink)
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Bill Maher videos. Bill Maher videoes being taken seriously. That's when you can tell your participating in a good discussion.
What's your beef with Bill Maher?







Typical voting public right here.
This video harps back to the point I made a few pages ago about how people view Obama in a negative light.
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Old 10-05-2013, 11:35 AM   #126 (permalink)
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Except for the fact that we're not talking hypotheticals here-the vast majority of the top ranked healthcare systems in the world are single payer or close to it(ie if you need antibiotics for a sinus infection you may have to pay, but if you need chemo or surgery it's covered).
That's other countries. America is a scam. That's all it is. Nothing is implemented unless some fatcat at the top is making big money off it. Single payer works in the military because people in the military are driven by duty not money. Nobody who wants to make money joins the military. In the civilian world, money is all there is. If it doesn't make somebody some money, it's not going to happen. A civilian single payer system in America is just a scam. Underneath, it's the same old s-hit going on--the rich getting richer.
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Bill Maher videos. Bill Maher videoes being taken seriously. That's when you can tell your participating in a good discussion.
So you're saying that Bill Maher told this guy--a U.S. senator--what to say?
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Old 10-05-2013, 04:12 PM   #128 (permalink)
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So you're saying that Bill Maher told this guy--a U.S. senator--what to say?
He is saying he doesn't like Bill Maher. Why? Well...

Here is another interview along the lines you posted but by Stephen Colbert and Rep Westmoreland. Go to about the 5 minute mark where Colbert ask about his legislation requiring the 10 commandments to be posted in the house and senate:

Better Know a District - Georgia's 8th - Lynn Westmoreland - The Colbert Report - 2006-14-06 - Video Clip | Comedy Central

Comedians are our best pundits. I liked the Maher clip. I will be looking forward to watching the whole film.
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Old 10-05-2013, 05:14 PM   #129 (permalink)
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That's other countries. America is a scam. That's all it is. Nothing is implemented unless some fatcat at the top is making big money off it. Single payer works in the military because people in the military are driven by duty not money. Nobody who wants to make money joins the military. In the civilian world, money is all there is. If it doesn't make somebody some money, it's not going to happen. A civilian single payer system in America is just a scam. Underneath, it's the same old s-hit going on--the rich getting richer.
Absolutely, and that's why we don't have single payer or a public option-not because it's a bad idea.
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Typical voting public right here.
This video harps back to the point I made a few pages ago about how people view Obama in a negative light.
You're always so mean to Obama voters.
Lighten up on them, man.
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