Sansa Stark

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Arya Stark

On top of that, there's a difference between simply being offended, scoffing, and whining a bit, and being actually hurt by the joke. If you take Daniel Tosh's suggestion that one of his fans gets raped on the way out of the show (meant to be a joke), this actually hurt her, and could have made her afraid to leave. Also, his fans tend to be idiots, and could have listened. Not saying it would have been his fault if someone attacked her, but his "joke" was completely disgusting and unnecessary. I might be offended if someone makes a joke about hispanics and... labor workers for example, but it's not the same as if someone made a joke that made me feel threatened or hurt.

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Mojo

I do know what you mean here but for the most part, I didn't see it that way. I actually think that other countries seem to be quicker offended etc than we are and when it comes to things like Muamba having a heart attack, and Petrov getting cancer, all the tributes at Villa Park etc I wouldn't be so quick to take issue with it. I think, at its core, it's a good thing. It's a normal, decent way for people top react. If we do anything here, as a rule, we maybe just drag it out longer than we need to.

I think what happened to Muamba was a shock. For a football fan, you dont like to witness that happen on TV, and it's natural to want to wish him well. We all pay to watch football and footballers, and for all they **** we give them, I think its natural to make a connection like that with one of them when something like that happens. To pay a tribute or whatever. Same with Petrov. The man has cancer. That isn't a nice scenario. However, how long is Villa Park gonna continue the tributes in the 19th minute? They can't keep it up forever, can they?

We maybe drag things on, when its probably time to move on, or else we arent just responding like decent people, we are dwelling in something unneccessarily. Look at Hillsborough. And look at the fans who would take my legs for even daring to mention it unless it's a completely, unmistakeably complimentary and praising way.

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Cuthbert

You mean the woman who heckled him at his own show? How is he supposed to know she was raped?

The joke was fine, OK it offended her, it's terrible she got raped. Not sure why he was wrong to make the joke. & Surely she would have known the sort of material he writes before going to one of his shows?

Cuthbert

I'm a Villa fan as you know, I actually go to the games and I take issue with it. It doesn't need to be done every game.

If Dave from work is ill do you write 'Get well soon Dave' on a shirt and lift it up when you execute a business deal? Fuck no, it's all for other people to see, that's why it's cringey. If you care, donate some money to a cancer charity or something.

See, this is the thing. Most people had never heard of him yet rushed to Twitter to show everyone how much they care about it. It's false. I mentioned some no mark celebrity and the Gaddafi tweet before, same principle. It's like a competition to see who can grieve the most.

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Liverpool fans like to give out death threats on social media websites and stalk your online profiles if you dare to mention Hillsborough in any other light than what their Justice campaigners say

Paedantic Basterd

I don't really mean to butt in on this, but the joke that Daniel Tosh made was: "Rape is always funny, right?" To which she disagreed aloud.

Daniel Tosh made victims the butt of his joke. Twice consecutively. I can't look past that, as much as I try to see both sides of this issue.

The guy is tasteless and oblivious.

Sansa Stark

How are you butting in if this is a public forum?

Mojo

Theres a chance we're on the same, if not similar, pages at least Fluffy. It just wasn't completely clear from your post.

Basically my point is that with things like what happened with Muamba, what happened to Petrov and the tributes surrounding that, and also things like Hillsborough, this isn't, at its core, false grief or concern....but it can become that. And of course you're gonna have bandwagon jumpers as well, but thats always the case, no matter the topic.

I found witnessing (well, kind of) what happened to Muamba distressing. It felt like one of those moments where the team you support doesn't ****ing matter, you know? Cause there are more important things. I also thought the tributes at Villa Park to Petrov were admirable and touching. There was a lot of respect there. I also understand the fight for justice when it comes to Hillsborough, and Liverpool fans, as a united front, feeling they had to clear their name and their reputation./ I understand all of those things, completely, but it has to stop somewhere right?

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Paedantic Basterd

Because it's a discussion I promised myself I'd stay out of.

djchameleon

Hecklers are the scum of the earth though and when they interrupt your performance they get what's coming to them the good the bad and the ugly.

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