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Had a discussion about this in the Iron Maiden thread yesterday. Basically, my opinion is that everyone needs to relax on that ****. It hasn't always been like this, it's something that's just gotten out of control over the last 10 years as far as I can tell. Clamping down on almost everything that can possibly be deemed offensive. It's ****ing pretentious bull****.



George Carlin spot on as usual.

djchameleon

This isn't just about taking something personally. If you went through a horrible situation that creates fear in you when it's brought up then when someone makes a comment/joke about it. It will bring back those same feelings that you had when you went through that horrible situation. It's almost like you are saying that things cause triggers for people should be A-okay because they just need to get over themselves.

You don't know how you would react when you are raped so don't even try that. Go through the experience first then come back with your lame commentary.



This isn't an issue of everyone trying to be all PC nowadays as opposed to how un-PC things were in the past. This is an issue of people lacking empathy and not giving a **** about other human beings just because they don't know they them.

Why can't people be decent fucking human beings and not try to tear down people that have been through horrible situations?

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Forward To Death

If you don't like it, you have the power to not listen to it. You won't ever be able to control what others say, but to some extent you can control what you hear, by not associating with people who are verbally abusive, not listening to comedy where you're likely to hear insensitive humor, etc.

What do you think should be done about it? There will always be insensitive pricks out there who think that it's socially acceptable to say they're going to rape you, or to call you the N-word. A lot of teens say it now, or at least they did when I was going to school. It was supposed to be funny to say that you're going to rape someone's face. It isn't funny, it's actually very lame, but it also isn't really that offensive IMO. If you think it's offensive, speak up. If the person who said it keeps it up, that's harassment.

Trollheart

The only possible way I could see that as being funny, or even acceptable, would be if both parties had already decided it was ok to say that. Given what happened later, not in the least funny and certainly not a joke.

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Trollheart

Let's be honest, 216, that's crap. You're a guy and unlikely to get raped ever. So am I. We know **** all about how people who have undergone that horrible ordeal feel, so please do me a favour and stop pretending you understand. You don't. I don't. We can't. So we are not qualified to speak on how someone who has experienced the horror of rape will feel, ever, for the rest of their lives. Whether it's a person known to them or unknown, that cloud will always hang over every perception they have and offhand, supposedly funny but ultimately insensitive comments like that will always be a trigger, and a reminder.

TBH, I don't see why anyone should have to use the word rape in the presence of, or when talking about, any woman. There are some women in my life I really despise but I would never talk of raping them or of hoping they were raped. It's just a horrible thing to wish on someone or to contemplate happening to someone.

That last part isn't directed specifically at you, 216, but just my comment on the needlessness of anyone using the word, thereby the invalidity of using it in a "humourous" (in massive quotes) manner...

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This is basically how I feel. In front of people who respect me and have known me for some time, I feel comfortable making those kinds of jokes. That one though is just plain stupid. I don't recommend ever saying anything similar to "I'm going to rape you", because it's just not funny even if you're just kidding.

I just don't think it's worth getting your panties all knotted up when you have to power to change it one way or another.

butthead aka 216

Trollheart and chameleon I don't even get the anger in the tones of your posts for gods sake. Read the posts I said how I think id feel and react. Can I have an opinion on hitler dven tho I ain't german or jew.... can I have opinions on adoption tho I've never adopted??? Where are u guys drawin this stupid line????? I stand by that opinion in that example so just get off your high horses or whatever towards me. I don't think I've dver taken somethin said at a bar as serious. In that case no I don't think id consider tgat person a threat. I might have an ibstinctive reaction but in a min I would use logic over emotion and realize he is jo threat and obviously jokin.

Tired of this crap where I have to be raped to speak about it just gimme a break. Xant speak on blacks or women or gays or mexicans or etc etc. Cram it up you cramhole lafleur

Franco Pepe Kalle

Sadly we live in times where people have become so cruel. So stupid stuff have actually become more funny than simple jokes. So as result we get these cheap ass jokes. I can't stand that **** but that is truth. Plus America is becoming more into porn anyway. All them porn **** have becomes the jokes that are the most funnniest today. That is my opinion.

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Key

216, I removed you from my ignore list, you are pretty much saying what I want to say in some cases.

I really don't understand why some people are attacking other people in this thread. Yes, some of you guys have gone through some personal issues, but is that really solving the issue of making jokes about certain things? It's just giving people more of a reason to believe that only people with personal issues can cause an issue about offensive jokes, whereas those who haven't aren't allowed to. If someone made an offensive joke about legally blindness (because i'm legally blind), I wouldn't give a ****, but if I make a joke about gay people or rape, suddenly it's an issue. Where do we cross the line, if we even need to?

Does it make you any less offensive if you make offensive jokes just because you've gone through more personal issues?

djchameleon

I know you don't mean anything by it but this mentality that guys won't get raped is one that needs to changed in society overall. I don't know if you have been to the project unbreakable website but they have men sharing their stories that has the same mentality with women telling them that they can't be raped before raping them.

The person that the incident happens to is the person that gets to decide if they find it offensive or not. Just like you have decided that jokes about being legally blind or blind type of jokes won't affect you. that is your personal decision.

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Fame, fortune, power, titties. People say these are the most crucial things in life, but you can have a pocket full o' gold and it doesn't mean sh*t if you don't have someone to share that gold with. Seems simple. Yet it's an important lesson to learn. Even lone wolves run in packs sometimes.