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WWWP 10-15-2013 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1373909)
Because I do understand what it means to be hurt by words, but then I also realized how silly it was to be hurt by someone who was just joking about a situation. If they're being serious and are out to hurt me, of course it will leave a thicker mark than a simple innocent joke. If joking about offensive behavior and someone whom i'm not even talking to takes offense, why should I feel obligated to care? I'm not making them listen to me. And yes, it happens in public more frequently than most think. Say you're on the bus and you're talking to your friend and you start making jokes that wouldn't seem offensive and somebody completely far away from you comes up to you and says the jokes are offensive. Of course, i'll stop making those jokes, but i'm not going to be made to feel bad about them prior to that situation.

Just fyi, I never said i'd continue to make the jokes if someone felt offended. If anything, i'll move somewhere else and continue to do so with the person i'm speaking with.

Ok, but the example you gave was sitting in a break room with people you knew and people you didn't know well. In that context I don't find it acceptable to make a joke that runs the risk of offending someone within earshot. The same goes if you're on public transport or in a coffee shop. I think that we all have a social responsibility as thinking adults to err on the side of caution.

Also you said that you wouldn't feel bad if you're making jokes with a friend that wouldn't seem offensive that did end up offending someone, but that's a different situation. I'm talking about jokes you know are offensive that you choose to make regardless of who is around to hear them, the situation in which you seemed to take the "that's their problem" approach.

Key 10-15-2013 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkyard Donner (Post 1373924)
Ok, but the example you gave was sitting in a break room with people you knew and people you didn't know well. In that context I don't find it acceptable to make a joke that runs the risk of offending someone within earshot. The same goes if you're on public transport or in a coffee shop. I think that we all have a social responsibility as thinking adults to err on the side of caution.

Yes, that example pertains to if I were sitting in the break room with a few good friends and we were all throwing jokes around. Is it my fault if I don't know that the person is going to be offended? I will stress the fact that I never said I would keep saying the jokes, but I still don't see why I should feel bad prior.

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Originally Posted by Junkyard Donner (Post 1373924)
Also you said that you wouldn't feel bad if you're making jokes with a friend that wouldn't seem offensive that did end up offending someone, but that's a different situation. I'm talking about jokes you know are offensive that you choose to make regardless of who is around to hear them, the situation in which you seemed to take the "that's their problem" approach.

I said in my example of the break room that I am talking to close friends. I never said I was just blurting out jokes to people I don't know that well. In any case, I'm always joking around with good friends, and offensive jokes get thrown around, and we all have a good laugh. I again don't see the problem.

I think people are completely missing the fact that I don't just scream random offensive jokes to people I don't know. If offensive jokes are being told, it's with a group of good friends who are doing the same thing.

Mr. Charlie 10-15-2013 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1373931)
I think people are completely missing the fact that I don't just scream random offensive jokes to people I don't know.

Man, you've completely ruined the image of you I carefully built up in my head. I liked that image too.

Burning Down 10-15-2013 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1373914)
^good point of the day. Can you tell us some pro comedians who you think are in the ******* camp? I'm just curious.

Daniel Tosh could be one, wasn't he the one who said rape jokes are funny?

Key 10-15-2013 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Charlie (Post 1373938)
Man, you've completely ruined the image of you I carefully built up in my head. I liked that image too.

Shut up, queer. :finger:

Mr. Charlie 10-15-2013 08:49 PM

I do like willy.

Engine 10-15-2013 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1373940)
Daniel Tosh could be one, wasn't he the one who said rape jokes are funny?

A heckler yelled at him about a rape joke, and he made a retort that made headlines. I like Tosh because he's intelligent and funny. He's very irreverent but I don't think his jokes put him in the *******-just-to-be-an-******* camp myself. Granted, I'm still trying to understand that concept.

butthead aka 216 10-15-2013 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkyard Donner (Post 1373905)
But if you can't extend that assurance to your audience then you're a shit comedian and, as Mr. Charlie said, your joke has failed. If you get gratification from making people question your morality or decency as a human then you're a shit person.


well what are we talkin about here, professional comedians or comedy with friends/everyday comedy. i said before rape jokes or dead baby jokes or whatever arent really my thing but ive been known to make a joke about a friend bein a cocksucker more than a few times.

i just assume rapport with everyone and if they dont get it then they dont get it. the internet especially, if someone is overly sensitive or whatever to those kinda jokes then so be it. it will create a divide on ppl who think im funny and ppl who dont and honestly i just prefer it that way so it works out

Burning Down 10-15-2013 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1373951)
A heckler yelled at him about a rape joke, and he made a retort that made headlines. I like Tosh because he's intelligent and funny. He's very irreverent but I don't think his jokes put him in the *******-just-to-be-an-******* camp myself. Granted, I'm still trying to understand that concept.

Oh yeah that's right, I think that happened a while ago so I couldn't remember the circumstances.

Cuthbert 10-15-2013 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1373951)
A heckler yelled at him about a rape joke, and he made a retort that made headlines.

The reply was something like 'I bet you got raped' or 'We should rape you'

Funny as **** imo. Seriously kicked her head in.

BTW you're a weak person if you let something somebody says offend you, joke or not.


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