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Old 07-22-2013, 05:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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It's a piece of empty rhetoric by a man desperately flailing for a way to get back the support of the idiots that got him into power in the first place but I suspect this issue's going to come up here at some point so I may as well be the one to plant initial bias in people's heads before reading the articles:

Cameron cracks down on 'corroding influence' of online pornography | Technology | The Guardian

BBC News - Online pornography to be blocked by default, PM announces

Bearing in mind that there is no way on earth this change would ever actually stop children from being able to access porn even if it was enacted, what are all of your opinions on a government going through with this kind of censorship for its citizens?
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It's not about porn, It's about governments trying to censor the internet in ways they'll get support for doing it.
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It's not about porn, It's about governments trying to censor the internet in ways they'll get support for doing it.
Will be a hero on the front of the Mail (next to the sidebar perving on teenage girls.)
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Will be a hero on the front of the Mail (next to the sidebar perving on teenage girls.)
I'm told that the Mail ran a piece today perving on Chloe Grace Moretz with specific statements about how she's grown up well. Hypocrisy is a wonderful thing.
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Nothing like a bit of scaremongering to get people to give up their rights willingly.

The number of people who were insisting that Britain leave the European Court of Human Rights over the whole Abu Qatada thing was extremely disturbing.
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Cameron is a prick. That is all.
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Old 07-22-2013, 09:23 AM   #8 (permalink)
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This actually sickens me.

Let's forget the bigger picture of the government clamping down further on freedom of speech and expression, by eventually filtering and controlling the internet and take this on face value.

So, Cameron and company want to protect children by removing child porn and making those who want to obtain standard pornography opt in.
Let me paint the realness. There are people, many many people with a vested interest in child pornography. That can't be fixed. There's something in their psyche that intrigues or excites them about the prospect. Be shocked, be horrified, whatever, we live in a world where people will get their pleasure out of watching rape, out of watching child porn out of committing acts themselves.

Now, think of the percentage of people whose interest goes no further than viewing images and watching videos. The vast majority of those with an interest in such activity aren't actually committing the acts because their desire can be satisfied by obtaining it on the internet. It's a twisted curiosity. Actually scratch 'twisted'. Who's any one person to comment on what is and is not normal.
Most of us have watched things like A Serbian Film, Human Centipede, we've probably googled executions and death footage whether we admit it or not.
Does this make us all evil, twisted psychopaths? Or do we just live in a day and age where our deepest, darkest questions and curiosity can be answered by the internet.

Now if you are to take away the capacity to allow people to access child porn, what do you think will happen? When people can not play out their fantasies, their desires, urges and curiosity by watching videos and viewing images, their curiosity will not be quashed. They will look for other ways to satisfy their desires. Mark my words, total blocking of child porn will lead to an increase in rape and sexual abuse of children. There will be more and more people who cannot get the kick their looking for online, and will resort to actually carrying out the acts to get what they're looking for.

Look I'm not supporting that, nor am I condemning it. I know the reality of the world we live in. Allowing people to access things online at least keeps them in a manageable environment where they are less harm to others as they are allowed to explore their suppressed tendencies. You don't allow them to explore that and their sexual frustration will build. Just think about it. Remove the ability to get what your mind tells you you want, and the urge to get it will keep building and building until you snap. There are many sick people out there, and they'll only get psychologically worse if you take away what they crave from the internet.
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This actually sickens me.

Let's forget the bigger picture of the government clamping down further on freedom of speech and expression, by eventually filtering and controlling the internet and take this on face value.

So, Cameron and company want to protect children by removing child porn and making those who want to obtain standard pornography opt in.
Let me paint the realness. There are people, many many people with a vested interest in child pornography. That can't be fixed. There's something in their psyche that intrigues or excites them about the prospect. Be shocked, be horrified, whatever, we live in a world where people will get their pleasure out of watching rape, out of watching child porn out of committing acts themselves.

Now, think of the percentage of people whose interest goes no further than viewing images and watching videos. The vast majority of those with an interest in such activity aren't actually committing the acts because their desire can be satisfied by obtaining it on the internet. It's a twisted curiosity. Actually scratch 'twisted'. Who's any one person to comment on what is and is not normal.
Most of us have watched things like A Serbian Film, Human Centipede, we've probably googled executions and death footage whether we admit it or not.
Does this make us all evil, twisted psychopaths? Or do we just live in a day and age where our deepest, darkest questions and curiosity can be answered by the internet.

Now if you are to take away the capacity to allow people to access child porn, what do you think will happen? When people can not play out their fantasies, their desires, urges and curiosity by watching videos and viewing images, their curiosity will not be quashed. They will look for other ways to satisfy their desires. Mark my words, total blocking of child porn will lead to an increase in rape and sexual abuse of children. There will be more and more people who cannot get the kick their looking for online, and will resort to actually carrying out the acts to get what they're looking for.

Look I'm not supporting that, nor am I condemning it. I know the reality of the world we live in. Allowing people to access things online at least keeps them in a manageable environment where they are less harm to others as they are allowed to explore their suppressed tendencies. You don't allow them to explore that and their sexual frustration will build. Just think about it. Remove the ability to get what your mind tells you you want, and the urge to get it will keep building and building until you snap. There are many sick people out there, and they'll only get psychologically worse if you take away what they crave from the internet.
You bring up a great point, but some people won't be able to watch it and will maybe think "I'm sick", and they finally realize it. It could be a benefit. Plus think of all the children this will potentially detract from watching porn. I mean, who knows what will happen.
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You bring up a great point, but some people won't be able to watch it and will maybe think "I'm sick", and they finally realize it. It could be a benefit. Plus think of all the children this will potentially detract from watching porn. I mean, who knows what will happen.
yeah totally just like when Prohibition happened, all the alcoholics just checked themselves into asylums, they didn't start drinking shoe polish or something, that would just be ridiculous!
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