Pro-Life or Pro-Choice?

WWWP · 03-29-2014, 09:36 PM

The arguments on consulting the father seem to imply that life begins at conception - where do you all stand in that regard?

**Frownland** · 03-29-2014, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkyard Donner

The arguments on consulting the father seem to imply that life begins at conception - where do you all stand in that regard?

I hope wasn't implying that, as I don't hold that opinion. I just think that the father should be aware of the situation because it can be potentially be life altering for both parties if they decide to keep it. Also, if the woman wants an abortion and the man is vehemently against it, it should show the couple that they have some irreparable differences that can really hinder their relationship. Hopefully they know each other well enough to know things like that but too many people hop between the sheets without any consideration.

Carpe Mortem · 03-31-2014, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I hope wasn't implying that, as I don't hold that opinion. I just think that the father should be aware of the situation because it can be potentially be life altering for both parties if they decide to keep it. Also, if the woman wants an abortion and the man is vehemently against it, it should show the couple that they have some irreparable differences that can really hinder their relationship. Hopefully they know each other well enough to know things like that but too many people hop between the sheets without any consideration.

I am very much in support with this statement

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

Hey now! I have a killer c section scar..Whose vagina is looking crazy? Dayum sho ain't mine...

And this one haha

And my original sentiments that it is ultimately up to the person carrying the fetus.... 10/10 times, the female... to decide if she wants to or not.

Black Francis · 03-29-2014, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkyard Donner

The arguments on consulting the father seem to imply that life begins at conception - where do you all stand in that regard?

Hard to say, once the sperm reaches the egg yea, i think that's when life begins however just because it's a life i don't hold it sacred because at that point it's not a conscious human being it's just literally life trying to survive.

im pro choice because i believe some ppl aren't fit to be parents, why bring a child into a life of suffering? and here is the thing, you can tell right away when a girl wants her baby..

Her maternal instinct starts right away and if a woman feels that i think she is ready to be a mother regardless if she is not in an ideal situation.

If she decides to give up the baby for adoption, the child lives but that maternal chain is broken..
i think in that case the girl will always know she turned her back on motherhood and i think that will haunt her more than if she never had the child.

RoxyRollah · 03-29-2014, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

Hard to say, once the sperm reaches the egg yea, i think that's when life begins however just because it's a life i don't hold it sacred because at that point it's not a conscious human being it's just literally life trying to survive.

im pro choice because i believe some ppl aren't fit to be parents, why bring a child into a life of suffering? and here is the thing, you can tell right away when a girl wants her baby..

Her maternal instinct starts right away and if a woman feels that i think she is ready to be a mother regardless if she is not in an ideal situation.

If she decides to give up the baby for adoption, the child lives but that maternal chain is broken..
i think in that case the girl will always know she turned her back on motherhood and i think that will haunt her more than if she never had the child.

While this is your opinion you are very very very wrong. You can't claim to know why a woman gives up her child. There are reasons other then them being unfit. I gave my daughter up. I do not feel like I turned my back on motherhood. You have no idea why I gave her up. You are making a very generalized statement. There isn't a day that goes by that I am haunted by what I did.
I choose to give her the best life a child could have, and every time I open letters with pictures, or updates in it. I feel relieved, that I did what I did. Because that kid is so cute, she would have run a muck all over me.

Black Francis · 03-30-2014, 01:49 PM

@RoxyRollah

K, first chillout a bit, i didn't know that..

And yea it was my assumption no need to take it personal
And just because you don't feel that it doesn't mean other girls don't.

I, as a guy can't speak for other woman
And you even though you are a woman don't speak for every woman .

When i meant the maternal chain is broken, i meant that most ppl that were adopted eventually seek out their real parrents, like there is an instinctive need to at least now who you real parents were.

That's what i meant by a maternal chain, i didn't mean to offend you or any girl that has lived through that.

RoxyRollah · 03-30-2014, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

@RoxyRollah

K, first chillout a bit, i didn't know that..

And yea it was my assumption no need to take it personal
And just because you don't feel that it doesn't mean other girls don't.

I, as a guy can't speak for other woman
And you even though you are a woman don't speak for every woman .

When i meant the maternal chain is broken, i meant that most ppl that were adopted eventually seek out their real parrents, like there is an instinctive need to at least now who you real parents were.

That's what i meant by a maternal chain, i didn't mean to offend you or any girl that has lived through that.

I am chill. I just want to know when your book on pregnancy and adoption is coming out.
I mean cause you talk like you know somethin about it. That's like me writing
a manual on flying a 747.

I don't speak for all women, I speak for myself. That's because I am QAULIFED to do so...

Black Francis · 03-30-2014, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

I am chill. I just want to know when your book on pregnancy and adoption is coming out.
I mean cause you talk like you know somethin about it. That's like me writing
a manual on flying a 747.

I don't speak for all women, I speak for myself. That's because I am QAULIFED to do so...

Really Roxy? you gonna be like that?

Im not claiming to be an expert on this subject but i have a 4 yr old daughter and one of my past Gf's had an abortion but before she did we talked about adoption and she said to me she couldn't handle that..

Am i qualified to have an opinion now?

Burning Down · 03-29-2014, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkyard Donner

The arguments on consulting the father seem to imply that life begins at conception - where do you all stand in that regard?

I don't believe that life begins at conception. An embryo is not a sentient being and fetuses cannot live outside the mother's body until they are matured and viable enough to do so.

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Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	@RoxyRollah K, first chillout a bit, i didn't know that.. And yea it was my assumption no need to take it personal And just because you don't feel that it doesn't mean other girls don't. I, as a guy can't speak for other woman And you even though you are a woman don't speak for every woman . When i meant the maternal chain is broken, i meant that most ppl that were adopted eventually seek out their real parrents, like there is an instinctive need to at least now who you real parents were. That's what i meant by a maternal chain, i didn't mean to offend you or any girl that has lived through that. __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A