Pro-Life or Pro-Choice?

The Ascension · 06-21-2014, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

So telling you that you come on here to troll is trolling?

The Ascension, I don't think you are a misogynist but at the same time it's a bit strange having a man say what a woman should do with a bunch of cells.

As I said, it depends what one views the fetus as - a "bunch of cells", or a living being.

And I don't see what makes it strange. Abortion is a common issue. Are only women supposed to discuss the morality of it?

For the record, I am far closer to pro choice than pro life - but I feel as though my suggestion fulfills a bit of a compromise. I guess not.

The Batlord · 06-21-2014, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

The Ascension, I don't think you are a misogynist but at the same time it's a bit strange having a man say what a woman should do with a bunch of cells.

Regardless of how much I might agree with someone I think it's a bit reductionist to call a fetus "a bunch of cells". They are, obviously, but if that's all they were then I imagine it wouldn't be such an emotional event for a woman to abort one. A fetus is more than the sum of its parts in the mind of a person. They're the promise of a person. I mean I can't really think of a fetus without also thinking of a baby or a child. So I can understand people letting that get in the way of their logic when talking about abortion.

GuD · 06-21-2014, 06:35 PM

I don't know you well enough to fairly make such an accusation so I apologize too. I was under the impression you were the alternate account of a previous user who made a name for himself being a misogynist prick. I'm kind of a drunken asshat sometimes.

~~Sboa1302~~ · 06-21-2014, 06:40 PM

Hi

The Ascension · 06-21-2014, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by WhateverDude

I don't know you well enough to fairly make such an accusation so I apologize too. I was under the impression you were the alternate account of a previous user who made a name for himself being a misogynist prick. I'm kind of a drunken asshat sometimes.

I am all me. And it's cool. I know that feel, I've made the same mistakes on a different forum (I accidentally banned a guy once under the guise that he was a previously banned user, turns out he wasn't - oops).

YorkeDaddy · 06-21-2014, 06:41 PM

Yay everyone is friends <3

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 06-21-2014, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

I haven't been trolling at all, you're trying to stir me up for no reason. I've been nothing but polite and well-intentioned, so stop being petty and immature. It used to work, but it won't work on me anymore.

You've been accusing WhateverDude of things and suddenly now you're innocent? I have seen you do this so many times and it's really boring. How about posting like a normal member, not just coming here to create drama where there was none.

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Originally Posted by The Ascension

As I said, it depends what one views the fetus as - a "bunch of cells", or a living being.

And I don't see what makes it strange. Abortion is a common issue. Are only women supposed to discuss the morality of it?

For the record, I am far closer to pro choice than pro life - but I feel as though my suggestion fulfills a bit of a compromise. I guess not.

It's our bodies though, it's not a mans right to tell us whether having an abortion is lazy/unnecessary.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Regardless of how much I might agree with someone I think it's a bit reductionist to call a fetus "a bunch of cells". They are, obviously, but if that's all they were then I imagine it wouldn't be such an emotional event for a woman to abort one. A fetus is more than the sum of its parts in the mind of a person. They're the promise of a person. I mean I can't really think of a fetus without also thinking of a baby or a child. So I can understand people letting that get in the way of their logic when talking about abortion.

I agree that there is definitely an emotional part of having an abortion, but scientifically it's just cells up to a certain amount of weeks. It's down to the woman to make the decision, whether or not someone thinks its morally right or wrong.

The Ascension · 06-21-2014, 06:51 PM

That's a perfectly fair stance, and not one that I can really argue with.

The Batlord · 06-21-2014, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

I agree that there is definitely an emotional part of having an abortion, but scientifically it's just cells up to a certain amount of weeks. It's down to the woman to make the decision, whether or not someone thinks its morally right or wrong.

Sure but my point is that it's an emotional issue for everyone, so painting it as purely scientific when judging someone is unfair.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 06-21-2014, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Ascension

That's a perfectly fair stance, and not one that I can really argue with.

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06-21-2014, 06:35 PM	#383 (permalink)
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