Sansa Stark

Death of Savita Halappanavar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Soz, I thought it was pretty well known, I saw it all over tumblr/facebook

but basically she was having a miscarriage and she went to the hospital and she needed an abortion but under Irish law she couldn't have one because the fetus's heart was still beating, she ended up getting septicaemia and got multiple organ failure from that and died. Totally unnecessary.

I just don't really get anyone who's pro-life, I read this great quote from a catholic nun saying

"I do not believe that just because you're opposed to abortion, that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed. And why would I think that you don't? Because you don't want any tax money to go there. That's not pro-life. That's pro-birth. We need a much broader conversation on what the morality of pro-life is.".

And honestly, the pro-life movement doesn't care about children after they are born. They don't realise if it were easier to access birth control or to have more childcare and actually comprehensive sex ed (here in America, I don't know about other countries) etc etc then we wouldn't have so much abortion.

I'm all for abortion though, I don't know if I could make that choice myself but that's me and I don't want anyone else to not have that choice.

Also, for anyone on the fence about this matter should honestly read Cider House Rules, because it's got a really great perspective on pro-life vs pro-choice.

Scarlett O'Hara

That's awful! I can't believe that happened in 2012. I don't know how the doctors and nurses in that situation could just let her die like that.

I have read comments by some pro-lifers saying they are against all forms of birth control. It's just so unrealistic.

I am going to order that book from the library, I think!

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Sansa Stark

What's really ****ed up is that people FREAK OUT about women wanting easier access to birth control, when I'm sure you know, that we use it for more than just preventing pregnancy

Zer0

There was a pro-life march in Dublin a few weeks ago in which an estimated 50,000 people took part. It was preceded by a service at a cathedral with the usual bible-referencing pro-life propaganda. The church is still feeding peoples minds and preventing them from thinking of the continuing consequences of abortion being illegal. People can think of no other reason why abortion should be outlawed other than "it's murder" or "it's a sin". Savita's death is what has triggered all of this here and her sad death would certainly not have happened had abortion been legalised here years ago.

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Paedantic Basterd

The new pope seems pretty cool, far as popes go, so perhaps an eventual change in thinking is on the horizon.

Scarlett O'Hara

Exactly! I am extremely grateful for my Mirena which I got through the public hospital, as it has reduced my chronic pain levels dramatically. It has reduced the amount of ovarian cysts I get too.

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Circe

So this is relevant:

Rick Perry signs wide-ranging Texas bill to limit access to abortion | World news | guardian.co.uk

I'm not even going to say anything about this article other than how it made me furious. I sometimes find it baffling that people in such supposedly modern nations are not only willing to support this bullshit but are actually capable of passing shady laws on it.

djchameleon

yeah, I was going to post about that. The update to the situation concerning what Wendy Davis did was all for naught because they ended up getting it passed anyways and are going to close down all those abortion clinics and be left with something like 2 or 3.

Oh I'm pro-choice btw.

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Fame, fortune, power, titties. People say these are the most crucial things in life, but you can have a pocket full o' gold and it doesn't mean sh*t if you don't have someone to share that gold with. Seems simple. Yet it's an important lesson to learn. Even lone wolves run in packs sometimes.

Sansa Stark

Rick Perry is such a shitlord

Circe

An American friend reckons it's going to get shot down in the Supreme Court, which I guess I can hope for. If the dubious statement about 80% of Texans opposing the move is true it could at least harm Rick Perry's political career. That's always a plus.