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Old 03-30-2014, 04:27 PM   #281 (permalink)
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That's not at all what I said.
But you did, go read your post again you said if you haven't lived through this you are unqualified to speak on the subject.

How is a guy ever gonna get pregnant and live through this !? >_<

You didn't make a distinction, if you had said ppl with experience on this subject from a personal stand point has more credibility that someone who hasn't, then i would be in agreeance with you.

but you basically stated if you haven't lived through it you're unqualified to speak on the subject

UNQUALIFIED as in, "you don't know what you're talking about" meaning you can't possibly be right.
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Old 03-30-2014, 04:30 PM   #282 (permalink)
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I'm not referring to abortion in general in talking about "maternal instincts."
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Old 03-30-2014, 04:52 PM   #283 (permalink)
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I'm not referring to abortion in general in talking about "maternal instincts."
Oh.. well yea in that case you're kinda right.

although ive seen it first hand, exmpl,

The mother of my daughter was a smoker but when she found out we were having a baby the first thing she did was quit cigarettes for the baby.

An opposing exmpl, my friend's girl was pregnant with his child and she openly admit it she was having the baby just for him (he really wanted a kid)

She smoked cigarettes and even drank during her pregnancy and guess what? she lost the baby.

Now, i know each person has their own way for caring about things but i think you can spot a maternal instinct from how the girl treats her pregnancy.

Some girls instantly make the baby the priority, other girls are kinda 'meh' about the whole thing, other girls don't even care, i can't possibly cover all the possibilities in a statement all im trying to say is that some females feel a very strong maternal instinct right away.
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It's fine to speak to your observations. Just be careful not to present them as facts.
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It's fine to speak to your observations. Just be careful not to present them as facts.
But.. but.. i never did that.

i know this is a complicated issue with no simple answer.

do i really need to start all my post with the disclaimer "This is just my opinion" don't we all know that? and for god sakes IM A GUY i can't possibly know what goes through a pregnant female's head, so ofc all i say is my opinions based on my experience on this subject but i never stated they are a fact of life.
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The tone behind your posts say otherwise. You seem to say "of course as a man I don't understand but really you guys I know what I'm talking about."
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The tone behind your posts say otherwise. You seem to say "of course as a man I don't understand but really you guys I know what I'm talking about."
*Sighs*

Can't even agree with you when i agree with you.

if i address this with some sense of confidence is because i have lived through this experience as GUY with a female partner.

but again, it doesn't mean it's the absolute truth,
im f*ckin amazed i have to keep stating this.
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@Black Francis, I never said you were an *******, do not put words in my mouth.
I simply want you to understand the statement you made was completely wrong. Had you said two simple words. "I feel" there wouldn't have been **** I could have said to you. Because you feel that way, and no matter how you feel you are not wrong in feeling so. But you made generalized statement, about the maternal chain being broken, and woman feeling like they gave up motherhood.
You don't know how women feel about it. You know your particular situation. And you how that made you feel say that. Don't say you know about something you will never understand because you can't carry a baby in your womb for nine months. You can't give birth to a child and know what it is to see the look of motherhood on another woman's face. You don't know because you are a man. POINT BLANK PERIOD. YOU can have an opinion, but it is only going to be half right. Because you are a man.
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I'm just trying to help you understand why Roxy was upset by what you said.
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@Black Francis, I never said you were an *******, do not put words in my mouth.
I simply want you to understand the statement you made was completely wrong. Had you said two simple words. "I feel" there wouldn't have been **** I could have said to you. Because you feel that way, and no matter how you feel you are not wrong in feeling so. But you made generalized statement, about the maternal chain being broken, and woman feeling like they gave up motherhood.
You don't know how women feel about it. You know your particular situation. And you how that made you feel say that. Don't say you know about something you will never understand because you can't carry a baby in your womb for nine months. You can't give birth to a child and know what it is to see the look of motherhood on another woman's face. You don't know because you are a man. POINT BLANK PERIOD. YOU can have an opinion, but it is only going to be half right. Because you are a man.
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