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Engine 03-22-2014 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Carpe Mortem (Post 1430323)
I think it's pretty ****ed up to be pro-life. As in... I legitimately think it makes you a bad person.
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I love it when people say things that I don't have the courage to say.

On the other hand I do sympathize with any parent who feels biologically compelled to give birth no matter what, for whatever reason. I can see wanting to keep a child even if I couldn't afford it financially, etc. It's a personal decision.

But I wish that pro-abortion was a politically legitimate term, because that's what I am. It's not about choice versus life. It's about legal abortion versus illegal abortion.

Carpe Mortem 03-22-2014 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1430326)
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I love it when people say things that I don't have the courage to say.

On the other hand I do sympathize with any parent who feels biologically compelled to give birth no matter what, for whatever reason. I can see wanting to keep a child even if I couldn't afford it financially, etc. It's a personal decision.

But I wish that pro-abortion was a politically legitimate term, because that's what I am. It's not about choice versus life. It's about legal abortion versus illegal abortion.
If I'm gathering correctly... you personally would prefer fetuses don't get destroyed, but they're gonna be, because they're not always wanted, so best it be done safely?

I respect that opinion. I also disagree with it, as a cynic, as I find abortions to be an excellent form of population control, in addition to being what should be an accepted right of every female.

Engine 03-22-2014 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Carpe Mortem (Post 1430327)
If I'm gathering correctly... you personally would prefer fetuses don't get destroyed, but they're gonna be, because they're not always wanted, so best it be done safely?

I respect that opinion. I also disagree with it, as a cynic, as I find abortions to be an excellent form of population control, in addition to being what should be an accepted right of every female.
No, not really. I would personally rather see less children born than more. That's why I say I'm pro-abortion. But I wouldn't call a mother who wants to keep her child a bad person.

Carpe Mortem 03-22-2014 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1430329)
No, not really. I would personally rather see less children born than more. That's why I say I'm pro-abortion. But I wouldn't call a mother who wants to keep her child a bad person.
I'd say there's a difference between a mother who wants to keep her child, and a mother who thinks all women should be forced to incubate fetuses, though. The former is definitely not on my sh!t list.

Engine 03-22-2014 01:27 AM
I'm pretty sure we're full on agreeing here.

Carpe Mortem 03-22-2014 01:45 AM
Amen brotha

Wpnfire 03-22-2014 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1430329)
No, not really. I would personally rather see less children born than more. That's why I say I'm pro-abortion.
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Originally Posted by Carpe Mortem (Post 1430327)
...I find abortions to be an excellent form of population control...

I hope you two don't mean to say that's the main reason you're pro-choice, because abortion is an abysmal solution to overpopulation. It's considerably more effective to just not get pregnant in the first place. lol All of these are 10000x more effective at that:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterilization_(medicine)
birth-control
and self-control can be used to prevent unwanted pregnancy.

I don't mean to insult you, but seriously, that was some terrible logic and reasoning.

Engine 03-22-2014 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1430446)
I hope you two don't mean to say that's the main reason you're pro-choice, because abortion is an abysmal solution to overpopulation. It's considerably more effective to just not get pregnant in the first place. lol All of these are 10000x more effective at that:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterilization_(medicine)
birth-control
and self-control can be used to prevent unwanted pregnancy.

I don't mean to insult you, but seriously, that was some terrible logic and reasoning.

Obviously I'm talking about when people **** up and accidentally get pregnant.
And from what I understand, abortion is 100% effective.

Carpe Mortem 03-22-2014 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Engine (Post 1430451)
Obviously I'm talking about when people **** up and accidentally get pregnant.
And from what I understand, abortion is 100% effective.
This.

djchameleon 03-23-2014 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Carpe Mortem (Post 1430327)
I find abortions to be an excellent form of population control.
You know what's an excellent form of population control? Wars, disease and famine.

Abortions are just a last resort type of thing.


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