Earthlings (The Film)

Honey and Salt · 07-14-2013, 03:39 PM

PETA may seem erratic and "crazy", but they are just aggressive. Which I feel animals deserve as an advocate.

djchameleon · 07-14-2013, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom Limb

The point is that it's a choice. You're saying the taste of animals is more important that their life. The pain they go through is worth the food you're eating.

And while PETA may seem crazy to you, they're just trying to fight things that give people the impression that animals are lesser and it's ok to kill them.

Read through this list of publicity stunts by PETA and tell me that they don't seem crazy to you as well.

Top 10 Insane P.E.T.A Publicity Stunts - Toptenz.net

Phantom Limb · 07-14-2013, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

Read through this list of publicity stunts by PETA and tell me that they don't seem crazy to you as well.

Top 10 Insane P.E.T.A Publicity Stunts - Toptenz.net

THey don't seem crazy to me at all. They're all legitimate protests and calls for people to stop eating meat. You have to get peoples attention somehow.

And we both know that the plant argument is full of holes.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 07-14-2013, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom Limb

The point is that it's a choice. You're saying the taste of animals is more important that their life. The pain they go through is worth the food you're eating.

And while PETA may seem crazy to you, they're just trying to fight things that give people the impression that animals are lesser and it's ok to kill them.

I am really shocked at this response from DJ. Is it really necessary to torture animals before they are eventually killed? According to the Animal Rights Action website, 40% of animals electrocuted do not get knocked unconscious and get boiled or skinned alive.

DJ, does it make you feel good that your "pets" are routinely killed in some Asian countries like China? Dogs and cats are skinned and killed for meat and sold at markets.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 07-14-2013, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom Limb

The point is that it's a choice. You're saying the taste of animals is more important that their life. The pain they go through is worth the food you're eating.

Isn't what he's saying exactly what you asked for? For people to acknowledge the plight of the cow even if they don't plan to stop contributing to it?

Phantom Limb · 07-14-2013, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

Isn't what he's saying exactly what you asked for? For people to acknowledge the plight of the cow even if they don't plan to stop contributing to it?

To acknowledge AND understand. He acknowledges but I'm sure he doesn't understand. It's very hard to understand unless you've actually seen the process.

Circe · 07-14-2013, 04:25 PM

PETA are a pretty despicable organisation. Over here in the UK we have charities like the RSPCA that make their primary goal saving animals and giving them a chance for a better life. They don't bother spending all of their money on objectifying women in ridiculous ad campaigns rather than actually putting it towards the animals they take responsibility for looking after.

But on the documentary: eh, I've seen it all before in other documentaries. I'm not really an animal lover but I have been a vegetarian for a few years now, partly out of disgust at the kind of stuff the documentary shows and partly because someone has to try and balance out all the people that eat more meat than the world can handle. I'm not militant at all except when it comes to "vegetarians" that eat fish or poultry but I will say to anyone considering converting that it really is not anywhere near as difficult as it appears. You can find good quality substitutes for pretty much every kind of common meat and you can still have a perfectly healthy diet without rigorous planning.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 07-14-2013, 04:32 PM

Out of curiosity... what is the vegetarian substitute for a nice bloody steak?

I've thought about cutting down on meat purely for health reasons. I don't think I could ever give it up completely.

djchameleon · 07-14-2013, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

DJ, does it make you feel good that your "pets" are routinely killed in some Asian countries like China? Dogs and cats are skinned and killed for meat and sold at markets.

What happens in other countries doesn't concern me because I'm not consuming those animals.

Yes, it's a bit heart breaking that it happens but it's not my place to judge those countries for the animals that they consume.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 07-14-2013, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Circe

PETA are a pretty despicable organisation. Over here in the UK we have charities like the RSPCA that make their primary goal saving animals and giving them a chance for a better life. They don't bother spending all of their money on objectifying women in ridiculous ad campaigns rather than actually putting it towards the animals they take responsibility for looking after.

I have certainly noticed that about Peta. I have volunteered for RSPCA when I was in high school because I am definitely an animal lover. I do feel extreme guilt when I eat meat and certainly have thought about being a vegetarian. My mom is a vegetarian. Meat can cause many health problems as well, it's not just about the animal abuse. Many of the drugs the animal is injected with can be still traced in our meat.

07-14-2013, 03:39 PM	#11 (permalink)
Honey and Salt Groupie Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 11	PETA may seem erratic and "crazy", but they are just aggressive. Which I feel animals deserve as an advocate.

07-14-2013, 04:25 PM	#17 (permalink)
Circe Blunt After Blunt After Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a French-ass restaurant Posts: 337	PETA are a pretty despicable organisation. Over here in the UK we have charities like the RSPCA that make their primary goal saving animals and giving them a chance for a better life. They don't bother spending all of their money on objectifying women in ridiculous ad campaigns rather than actually putting it towards the animals they take responsibility for looking after. But on the documentary: eh, I've seen it all before in other documentaries. I'm not really an animal lover but I have been a vegetarian for a few years now, partly out of disgust at the kind of stuff the documentary shows and partly because someone has to try and balance out all the people that eat more meat than the world can handle. I'm not militant at all except when it comes to "vegetarians" that eat fish or poultry but I will say to anyone considering converting that it really is not anywhere near as difficult as it appears. You can find good quality substitutes for pretty much every kind of common meat and you can still have a perfectly healthy diet without rigorous planning.

07-14-2013, 04:32 PM	#18 (permalink)
~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	Out of curiosity... what is the vegetarian substitute for a nice bloody steak? I've thought about cutting down on meat purely for health reasons. I don't think I could ever give it up completely.