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06-19-2013, 06:12 AM | #1 (permalink) |
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Soldiers' families suing the UK government? Wow!
BBC News - Iraq damages cases: Supreme Court rules families can sue
I'm not sure how I feel about this. As an Irish person I have no direct stake in this action or decision, but I'd say if this sets a precedents families of soliders killed in combat all over the world are going to be taking cases. Surely a landmark ruling? What do yaz think?
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It comes under the UK's obsession with the "Duty of Care" law and in this respect it's aimed at the military not providing soldiers with adequately armoured vehicles. Whilst I see the validity of the debate, the whole thing seems quite bizarre considering those in question are based in a warzone.
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06-19-2013, 02:11 PM | #3 (permalink) |
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Yeah that's what I thought. I mean, surely this is literally "something you sign up for"? Nobody ever said "Join the army and fight in a foreign land but you won't be hurt?" I'm all for helping the families but it just seems like stretching it a little. I really don't know, but I imagine as I say once that genie is out of the bottle...
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So if we now have soldiers' families wanting to sue the military because of faulty equipment where does it end. I mean if somebody's tank blows up in a warzone who's to blame, who's to blame if somebody's parachute doesn't open, who's to blame if somebody's vehicle goes over a mine and even more importantly those that die from friendly fire? When you therefore start adding "Duty of Care" into all this, the whole thing becomes a farce and makes you realize that these troops should've stayed at home in the first place.
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06-19-2013, 05:36 PM | #6 (permalink) |
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Something like this isn't that easy to quantify though. Sure, our soldiers basically sign their lives away when they join up but at the same time they expect the military to provide them with the resources and dedication required to ensure the maximum possiblity of their survival in warzones. If negligence from higher command, insufficient supplies or low quality equipment cause a soldier's death then I'm fully behind his family being able to demand compensation for it.
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Still I was actually shocked it was passed. You can't put a price on human life but even so what do the troops and their families expect? These soldiers are in an active warzone and have been since they arrived, only the warzone became less predictable and more dangerous after Sadam fell and we claimed "victory." The MOD and the Government are complete and utter bastards, that much I can agree with, I'm just not so sure that "if I travelled in car A instead of B I would still be alive and dandy" is justifiable in such situations. It will set an interesting precedent for the future in any case. |
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If this doesn't appeal to you, then don't join the military and don't go around saying that, "Someone needs to do something" everytime something terrible happens in the world (i.e. Syria, Lybia, Mali, etc). Not that that applies to you, but it's just a pet peeve of mine.
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Defensive? You're the one who changed her post after basically accusing me of being a neo-con.
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And calling this country morally bankrupt is silly. We're doing nothing that any other nation with half a chance wouldn't do themselves. When one country has strength, it uses it to exploit weaker nations. Pretty? No. Fair? No. Reality? Yes. So implying that this country is somehow particularly bad is silly. We're as self-serving and pragmatic as any other country. You might as well just say that our genes are wrong, or the fluoride in the water is rotting our moral centers away.
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