Cuthbert

Na they are bullets I think. They didn't even actually behead him, they tried to but didn't actually finish the job.

This is apparently what this guy said in full and I have no reason to believe otherwise - http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/a...9329114506.jpg

EDIT - https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...19224013_n.jpg here he is with Anjem Choudary

Anjem Choudary confirms he knows him and has demonstrated with him - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLXe7...layer_embedded

Sansa Stark

That's really powerful. What he did was wrong, but as I cannot put myself in his shoes I can't really blame him for his actions. What else could he do? Non violence only works when your opponent has a conscience, like I said.

Cuthbert

Agreed.

Freebase Dali

So basically you're condoning violent retribution if it "works better" than diplomacy?

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Sansa Stark

Yeah, I am. Wanna fight about it?

Freebase Dali

I'm just wondering how you feel about the violent retribution that America doles out. I guess you support that too?

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Sansa Stark

Nope. But I am American, I have my own sense of morality and morality as a whole is relative. America is a big ****ing bully, applying your own morality to others is oppression. Same goes for Britain.

Freebase Dali

So you do or don't think that applying violent retribution is oppressive?
Or is it all based on who you think deserves it more, which would also be relative?

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Sansa Stark

I can't rightly say who deserves it, I don't have all the sides of the story but based on my scant knowledge of the English governmental system & ours and our lack of good, quality mental health resources I would say his reaction is understandable, however that doesn't mean it's "right", per se. I'm merely stating it's not quite my place to pass judgment.

So yeah, again, relative.

Freebase Dali

But you have already passed judgement by considering his reaction understandable, in that your scant knowledge of western government has deemed itself as so horrendous to you, that taking lives of innocent people is in some way acceptable as a repayment, whether it is in your own moral system or not.
To understand his reaction, you have to empathize with it. You don't have to agree with it, but you are acknowledging that it is at least a justifiable recourse by someone's standards. And in that regard, you simultaneously legitimize the opposing side, which supposedly caused the scenario to begin with.

It's a loop of stupidity, because it places more weight on one side's reaction rather than the other. I'd say that when it comes to murdering people, perhaps a bit more objectivity should be put into practice without hinging something so drastic on whether one side did what or not.

You support the death penalty by any chance?

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