Venezuela implements new Labour Law as a Mother's Day Gift

14232949 · 05-22-2013, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Circe

Can someone please explain what could possibly be considered racist in it to me?

you generalised that 'Jaun' and 'Carla' (note use of stereotypical Hispanic names) were probably struggling to feed their families. And the analogy of the sandwich indicated they were poor.
In 2013, this is a bona fide example of racism.

Pretty much just proof that no matter what you say, someone will take offence to it. I wouldn't worry about it. I think you just made a fair point, and someone tried to back out of defending their point by branding you racist. Classic internet.

Unknown Soldier · 05-22-2013, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

It's probably because you assumed that people would have standard Hispanic names in Venezuala. I didn't find it racist, though.

You'll find that they do and are fairly standard across Latin America, there are a number of exceptions but I'd say there is less variety than in a English speaking country.

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Originally Posted by Mankycaaant

you generalised that 'Jaun' and 'Carla' (note use of stereotypical Hispanic names) were probably struggling to feed their families. And the analogy of the sandwich indicated they were poor.
In 2013, this is a bona fide example of racism.

The vast majority of populations in these countries right upto the lower end of the middle classes, struggle with certain essentials. Also that penpal list of names, is only really targeted at the younger end of the population. t

Btw isn't the name meant to be Juan

or is this some other name?

**Frownland** · 05-22-2013, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

You'll find that they do and are fairly standard across Latin America, there are a number of exceptions but I'd say there is less variety than in a English speaking country.

I know, I was being ironical

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Arya Stark · 05-23-2013, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mankycaaant

you generalised that 'Jaun' and 'Carla' (note use of stereotypical Hispanic names) were probably struggling to feed their families. And the analogy of the sandwich indicated they were poor.
In 2013, this is a bona fide example of racism.

Pretty much just proof that no matter what you say, someone will take offence to it. I wouldn't worry about it. I think you just made a fair point, and someone tried to back out of defending their point by branding you racist. Classic internet.

Lmao I didn't try to back out of defending anything.
I think it's funny that everyone wants to criticize other countries all of the time.
It reminds me of politicians who criticize the workings of the economy, human rights, or other things in Europe for example, when some of the things they mentioned work much better than they do here.

It seems to me that people don't like change, which is fine. And my argument is not that any change is better than no change, but rather that positive change and recognition of stay-at-home and non-working moms is better than ignoring them.

I think that it is interesting, also, that many of the critics seems to be male, non-married, without children, republican or more than one of the above.

On that note, I'm not saying that the change will be great, what I was commenting on was the recognition of those who are generally ignored.

Thank you for your assumptions, everyone, that I was attempting to change the subject!

hip hop bunny hop · 05-23-2013, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by AwwSugar

Lmao I didn't try to back out of defending anything.
I think it's funny that everyone wants to criticize other countries all of the time.
It reminds me of politicians who criticize the workings of the economy, human rights, or other things in Europe for example, when some of the things they mentioned work much better than they do here.

It seems to me that people don't like change, which is fine. And my argument is not that any change is better than no change, but rather that positive change and recognition of stay-at-home and non-working moms is better than ignoring them.

I think that it is interesting, also, that many of the critics seems to be male, non-married, without children, republican or more than one of the above.

On that note, I'm not saying that the change will be great, what I was commenting on was the recognition of those who are generally ignored.

Thank you for your assumptions, everyone, that I was attempting to change the subject!

Well, this is a bunch of jumbled statements. I have no idea why someone being single childless male republicans nerfs their criticism, or how this bizarre extension of state pensions to stay-at-home mothers means the government isn't ignoring them.

The above graph is the most perfect summary of why pensions, in Venezuela at this time, are meaningless.

anticipation · 05-23-2013, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AwwSugar

Lmao I didn't try to back out of defending anything.
I think it's funny that everyone wants to criticize other countries all of the time.
It reminds me of politicians who criticize the workings of the economy, human rights, or other things in Europe for example, when some of the things they mentioned work much better than they do here.

It seems to me that people don't like change, which is fine. And my argument is not that any change is better than no change, but rather that positive change and recognition of stay-at-home and non-working moms is better than ignoring them.

I think that it is interesting, also, that many of the critics seems to be male, non-married, without children, republican or more than one of the above.

On that note, I'm not saying that the change will be great, what I was commenting on was the recognition of those who are generally ignored.

Thank you for your assumptions, everyone, that I was attempting to change the subject!

I'd love to hear a single person refute the many valid and relevant points made in this thread about this law and its numerous pitfalls.