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Old 05-22-2013, 10:36 AM   #31 (permalink)
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It is insane. When I volunteered for cleaning up after the Joplin Tornado part of my daily commute was driving through the area that was ruined. Tornadoes are frightening things, even if they are strangely beautiful from a distance.
You know I'm not your biggest fan but that sir is truly amazing of you to do that and I now have so much more respect for you.
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:57 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Old 05-22-2013, 12:07 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Deserve it no (what is your problem, Po?) but God needed them for something IMHO
Phantasio admits there's no exact science yet. This is exactly what Im talking about.
On the other hand i like the idea Earth is an entity.

ON the subject of Mt St Helens, didnt that erupt in 2006?
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Old 05-22-2013, 12:09 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Deserve it no (what is your problem, Po?) but God needed them for something IMHO
Phantasio admits there's no exact science yet. This is exactly what Im talking about.
On the other hand i like the idea Earth is an entity.

ON the subject of Mt St Helens, didnt that erupt in 2006?
I have no problem at all, I am just trying to understand your logic. I don't know if "God" needed them for anything, they were just killed by a freak act of nature. I believe everything has already been decided, or set, therefore this would always have happened, and every horrible and wonderful that will happen has already happened, the future is just as assured as the past is. Where god comes into this, I don't know, whatever that is.
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:03 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Hmm. This is getting very metaphysical. Natural disasters are just that: natural. You can of course choose to believe that God (if he/she/they/it exists, and cares) has a plan, and so everything happens for a reason, but if you do, then you have to start questioning why earthquakes, cot deaths, AIDS and a whole host of other things happen. And if you go down that road, bring a map and a torch with plenty of batteries because it's a long, hard way back...
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:08 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Hmm. This is getting very metaphysical. Natural disasters are just that: natural. You can of course choose to believe that God (if he/she/they/it exists, and cares) has a plan, and so everything happens for a reason, but if you do, then you have to start questioning why earthquakes, cot deaths, AIDS and a whole host of other things happen. And if you go down that road, bring a map and a torch with plenty of batteries because it's a long, hard way back...
No, no I don't get into extremes when it comes to Jesus or the Bible.

A couple hrs before Mt St Helens erupted in May of 2006 I was lying in the dark, staring up at the ceiling and the walls got REALLY close. I began to panic and then a flash of an erupting volcano came to vision. I thought I was going crazy but then the next day it was on the news!
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Deserve it no (what is your problem, Po?) but God needed them for something IMHO
Phantasio admits there's no exact science yet. This is exactly what Im talking about.
On the other hand i like the idea Earth is an entity.

ON the subject of Mt St Helens, didnt that erupt in 2006?

What happened in 2006 was a puff of steam, what happened on May 18th 1980 was closer to a nuclear detonation



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Old 05-22-2013, 10:14 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Wow, this thread is starting to seem like some weird publication of The Weekly World News. God calling people home by killing them off with a tornado and prophecies in the night. Getting a little odd for my tastes.

I have a hard time swallowing either pill.

I do not think that "God" (I would like to tell me exactly what God is, and why he would need people to come back to him)

This was just a work of nature, there is no bigger spiritual play at work. It is just nature being nature, and doing what it does. No reason, other than the fact it is nature.
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This was just a work of nature, there is no bigger spiritual play at work. It is just nature being nature, and doing what it does. No reason, other than the fact it is nature.


Myself and everyone except Vegn is saying the same thing
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Old 05-23-2013, 12:32 AM   #40 (permalink)
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Think the Republicans will try to find some way to blame this on Obama?
The tragedy in Oklahoma is really a testament to the idiocy of Obama. He wants to take measures to protect the environment when in reality, nature is what's trying to kill us! If Romney were president, there would have been a declared war on the environment within his first hundred days of his term rather than letting nature take the lives of so many Americans.
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