P A N

i think hitting a woman is shameful 99.99% of the time. if your life is in danger because she's swinging a cast-iron frying pan at your head, knock her out and call the cops. scenarios differing from this should simply be fled.

ThePhanastasio

I seriously think that if a woman is hitting a man, hitting her back to protect himself is not shameful. It may not lie with social etiquette, but it is common self defense, and I think that men have the right to protect themselves in that case.

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P A N

i totally agree, but i do think the physical differences between a man and a woman need to be included in a decision to do something like that. ie. are you actually defending yourself? or are you just saying with your fist that you won't tolerate her crazy sh*t? personally, i would need to feel like i was in real danger. and even then, i would more likely try to restrain them before i would hit them, which goes for pretty much anyone, as hitting stuff is bad for your hands.

Cuthbert

This is misogynist imo.

Why is it only the extreme end of the spectrum that's acceptable anyway? People shouldn't be allowed to think they can hit someone and get away with it. I would stick the boot in on anybody for having the sheer audacity to even attempt to assault me.

ThePhanastasio

If someone hits you first, then **** the gender of the person; they've assaulted you, and you have the right to defend yourself.

As an aside, if you're a guy, you shouldn't just straight punch a dude in the face or anything. BUT if they happen to hit you in the face, then, by all means, defend yourself.

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P A N

fair enough. i wouldn't hit a man who i could readily tell was much weaker than me either though... unless he was racist or something and really needed a lesson. generally though, if i'm going to hit someone it's with the intention to knock them out for the purpose of decreasing my chances of becoming injured. i don't like fighting... i think it's pretty stupid, really. and force is something that i would generally only employ if absolutely necessary, more out of respect for myself than anything. and really, anyone smaller than me, male or female, can be subdued or restrained in ways other than hitting. i don't know. i'm thinking about it pretty hard, and it seems like fist fights are competitive in their nature, whereas most of the time violence to me is something i engage in only when necessary. i have been pushed by two people in my life to the point where i've inflicted violence because they simply wouldn't stop grilling me (both males), and i felt bad about it both times... like i couldn't believe i allowed them to have that much control over my emotional state. i didn't hit either of them because i knew i was much bigger and they just didn't need the damage to understand my point (that i was only going to take so much of their ****), but i still felt bad.

i don't know. i guess i'm just coming from a place where i think violence is very base, and walking away is the more intelligent thing to do. if someone hits me, i'd rather scream at them about how f*cking retarded they are (which i did once when i was stumbly-drunk) for lowering themselves to such ape-like behaviour. i don't take being hit as an insult. i feel sorry for violent people (probably why i'm so hard on myself when i engage in violence), and quite frankly would rather set an example of an alternative approach.

Trollheart

I WILL comment. Never. Not unless it was to save my life, like if she had a knife or a gun or a signed Picasso... No, you just don't hit women, that's how I was brought up. No excuses. Zero tolerance for that kind of behaviour.

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Fluffy, htf can it be misogynist to refuse to hit a woman? That just makes no sense. Sorry but I don't understand you. There doesn't have to be a logic to it: good manners and breeding and a respect of women leads to the same conclusion: you don't hit a woman. Ever. There is no way in hell that could be construed as misogynist. Chauvinist maybe, if you look at it from the worst side, but not misogynist.

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Cuthbert

Thing is, when people think like that, it creates behaviour like this:


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Most women I know and have spoken to regarding this tend to have the opinion that if you hit someone, then expect to be hit back. The idea that it's wrong to hit women is imo misogynist.