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right-track 04-16-2013 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1307600)
Except, like I said, there is absolutely no reason to think any of the victims donated money to fund terrorism. That's why your comments are so god damn obnoxious. The fact that you're apparently so unrepentant about it is honestly kind of nauseating.

I never said, nor thought any of the victims had donated money to the IRA.
What I did say was I agreed with Urban about those living in Boston who had, now know what it's like.
I hope they have time to reflect on their obnoxious and nauseating donations that helped fund the death of innocent men, women and children.

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Originally Posted by PoorOldPo (Post 1307604)
^
It would be like someone from Ireland saying the same thing, if a load of unarmed civil rights protesters were shot down in England.
[I]
"Now they know what it feels like"

Don't talk like a twat!

PoorOldPo 04-16-2013 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by right-track (Post 1307637)
I never said, nor thought any of the victims had donated money to the IRA.
What I did say was I agreed with Urban about those living in Boston who had, now know what it's like.

Because they need to be reminded right, despite the fact the vast majority had nothing to do with it. The vast majority of British people had nothing to do with its' government's atrocities, should they be literally reminded about those?

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Originally Posted by right-track (Post 1307637)
I hope they have time to reflect on their obnoxious and nauseating donations that helped fund the death of innocent men, women and children.

Your argument is just going around in circles, man.

right-track 04-16-2013 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by PoorOldPo (Post 1307641)

Your argument is just going round in circles, man.

Tell that to the victims of terrorism. I'm sure they'll agree

PoorOldPo 04-16-2013 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by right-track (Post 1307642)
Tell that to the victims of terrorism. I'm sure they'll agree

I'm sure they will.


I will tell it to the victims on both sides.

right-track 04-16-2013 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by PoorOldPo (Post 1307643)
I'm sure they will.


I will tell it to the victims on both sides.

Incidentally, just exactly what do you think my argument is?

FRED HALE SR. 04-16-2013 09:58 AM

Carlos Arredondo hailed as hero for Boston Marathon rescue efforts | World news | guardian.co.uk

This story was pretty touching. Sorry for all of the people in Boston dealing with this aftermath. I watched all last night hoping they would find the perpetrators. Lots of people will say they lose faith in humanity, but stories like this reaffirm why people should always have faith in humanity.

Burning Down 04-16-2013 10:26 AM

So wait, people who still live in Boston who may have funded the IRA in some capacity many years ago deserved this? What? How can you even dare to make that connection? I'm definitely not surprised that such a rude and inappropriate attitude has surfaced, but I am actually shocked that it came from Urban and RT. You're allowed to hold any opinion that you want, but it was definitely disrespectful to the majority (and probably ALL) of the victims who weren't involved in the schemes of the IRA.

right-track 04-16-2013 10:29 AM

Yes, if we're including the "majority (and probably ALL) of the victims who weren't involved in the schemes of the IRA"...which we're not.

Burning Down 04-16-2013 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by right-track (Post 1307664)
Yes, if we're including the "majority (and probably ALL) of the victims who weren't involved in the schemes of the IRA"...which we're not.

I'm sorry, I still think the argument was in poor taste regardless.

Urban Hat€monger ? 04-16-2013 10:35 AM

I never even said they deserved it, and we're not talking a long time ago we're talking about something that still goes on today.

Like I said it's not an uncommon opinion in Britain and I don't see at all how my comments are detrimental to the real victims in this.

right-track 04-16-2013 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1307667)
I'm sorry, I still think the argument was in poor taste regardless.

Again, I'll ask what exactly do you think my "argument" is?

I'm getting a little sick of people putting words in my mouth here.

Plankton 04-16-2013 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1307646)
Carlos Arredondo hailed as hero for Boston Marathon rescue efforts | World news | guardian.co.uk

This story was pretty touching. Sorry for all of the people in Boston dealing with this aftermath. I watched all last night hoping they would find the perpetrators. Lots of people will say they lose faith in humanity, but stories like this reaffirm why people should always have faith in humanity.

Thanks for that Fred.

FRED HALE SR. 04-16-2013 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Plankton (Post 1307671)
Thanks for that Fred.

Pretty strong guy there, gotta respect it.

DMA : theCHIVE

First photo is pretty cool.

Nurse Duckett 04-16-2013 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1307661)
So wait, people who still live in Boston who may have funded the IRA in some capacity many years ago deserved this? What? How can you even dare to make that connection? I'm definitely not surprised that such a rude and inappropriate attitude has surfaced, but I am actually shocked that it came from Urban and RT. You're allowed to hold any opinion that you want, but it was definitely disrespectful to the majority (and probably ALL) of the victims who weren't involved in the schemes of the IRA.


You're only shocked because of your ignorance on the subject of the IRA, if you don't mind me saying so.

It runs very very deep in England, and to be really honest I get the feeling you're not qualified to even offer an opinion on it.

FRED HALE SR. 04-16-2013 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Nurse Duckett (Post 1307681)
You're only shocked because of your ignorance on the subject of the IRA, if you don't mind me saying so.

It runs very very deep in England, and to be really honest I get the feeling you're not qualified to even offer an opinion on it.

What does the IRA have to do with the Boston Marathon bombing? Maybe you should stick to the subject or start an IRA thread to talk in.

bob. 04-16-2013 11:19 AM

gonna have to concur with you on that one Fred

Nurse Duckett 04-16-2013 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1307682)
What does the IRA have to do with the Boston Marathon bombing? Maybe you should stick to the subject or start an IRA thread to talk in.


I didn't bring the IRA up, I was simply making a point. I think it was a valid point, and I have no intention of going on about it.

Burning Down 04-16-2013 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Nurse Duckett (Post 1307681)
You're only shocked because of your ignorance on the subject of the IRA, if you don't mind me saying so.

It runs very very deep in England, and to be really honest I get the feeling you're not qualified to even offer an opinion on it.

Actually, I said I was shocked that the opinion was openly stated in here by someone who I thought would know better than to post it in this thread. The comment itself did not surprise me, like I said in my earlier post. I get that strong feelings about the IRA are running rampant in England. It's probably identical to all the feelings about Quebec separatism in Canada.

However, I don't see how the IRA or anyone who funded it is directly connected to the bombings in Boston. I'm allowed to say what I'd like to say on the subject, just as anyone else is, so don't say that I'm not qualified to do so.

I'm not going to derail the thread any further. If there are people who would like to talk about the IRA, etc, do so in another thread dedicated to the topic.

right-track 04-16-2013 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1307682)
What does the IRA have to do with the Boston Marathon bombing? Maybe you should stick to the subject or start an IRA thread to talk in.

I agree with Fred and Burning Down. A separate thread would be more appropriate.
It's a pity this one got a little off topic.
It's been regrettable.

right-track 04-16-2013 12:03 PM

:pssst: Urban, whatever ever you do, don't mention the Troubles.
I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it.

FRED HALE SR. 04-16-2013 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by right-track (Post 1307695)
:pssst: Urban, whatever ever you do, don't mention the Troubles.
I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it.

I actually remember a great deal about the troubles from the late 70's. Thought it was disbanded in the late 90's however. Dates back to 1600's from what I recollect. Did a report on it in 7th grade.

bob. 04-16-2013 12:08 PM

i would just like to say that my comment was actually at the Yankees/Red Sox picture....but that i also agree with Fred's other statement....and personally i feel opinions do not need qualification

i have to say....having literally found out about this this morning when i stopped to get some coffee.....i just don't see a reason for this....it just seems so pointless....

FRED HALE SR. 04-16-2013 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by bob. (Post 1307699)
i would just like to say that my comment was actually at the Yankees/Red Sox picture....but that i also agree with Fred's other statement....and personally i feel opinions do not need qualification

i have to say....having literally found out about this this morning when i stopped to get some coffee.....i just don't see a reason for this....it just seems so pointless....

If anybody can sympathize with Boston it would be New York.

Trollheart 04-16-2013 12:43 PM

Just found out about this right now. WTF is wrong with this world, when you can't even go for a fun run without the risk of being blown up? I haven't read the full thread yet, but does this have the smell of homegrown terrorism, do you think? Either way it's a despicable and cowardly act, and my thoughts, as I'm sure all of yours, are with those who were injured and their families, and of course the families of those who lost their lives. A black day. :(

PoorOldPo 04-16-2013 01:08 PM

Any leads on who it was yet?


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Originally Posted by right-track (Post 1307695)
:pssst: Urban, whatever ever you do, don't mention the Troubles.
I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it.




Wow you're really on a role Right Track, funny guy...

Paul Smeenus 04-16-2013 01:28 PM

The bombs were fashioned from pressure cookers and loaded with shrapnel, crude but effective. It has the appearance of a homegrown attack. As for motive, the marathon attracts athletes from all over the world, it could be anything.

Janszoon 04-16-2013 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by right-track (Post 1307670)
Again, I'll ask what exactly do you think my "argument" is?

I'm getting a little sick of people putting words in my mouth here.

And I'm sick of you hijacking a thread about a tradegy in my hometown for the purposes of your own unrelated political axe grinding. Please knock it off.

Burning Down 04-16-2013 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1307827)
And I'm sick of you hijacking a thread about a tradegy in my hometown for the purposes of your own unrelated political axe grinding. Please knock it off.

I already told everyone to take it to another thread.

Psy-Fi 04-16-2013 03:58 PM

Since nobody has claimed responsibility for the atrocity (as terrorist groups usually do), I tend to think it's a local nutcase behind the bombings.
I also think that bb's were used in place of ball bearings since they are cheap and easily obtainable.
3 dead, 17 critical, and 176 injured total. I hope they solve this horrendous atrocity soon.

Officials: No unexploded devices found | Boston Herald

Janszoon 04-16-2013 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1307833)
I already told everyone to take it to another thread.

And RT continued making snide comments, hence my remark.

Trollheart 04-16-2013 05:03 PM

Jansz, delighted you and yours are ok. Anyone heard from Big3? Anyone else here from Boston I should worry about?

Leads at this point, or still nothing?

right-track 04-16-2013 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by janszoon (Post 1307827)
and i'm sick of you hijacking a thread about a tradegy in my hometown for the purposes of your own unrelated political axe grinding. Please knock it off.

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Originally Posted by janszoon (Post 1307836)
and rt continued making snide comments, hence my remark.

what!?

Burning Down 04-16-2013 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1307836)
And RT continued making snide comments, hence my remark.

He made that post way before I told everyone to take it somewhere else. No comments were made afterwards.

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1307863)
Jansz, delighted you and yours are ok. Anyone heard from Big3? Anyone else here from Boston I should worry about?

Leads at this point, or still nothing?

Hermione said he posted something on Facebook a few hours afterwards, so I think he's okay!

Trollheart 04-16-2013 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1307867)

Hermione said he posted something on Facebook a few hours afterwards, so I think he's okay!

Great news! :tramp: (Sorry, that probably seemed a little disrespectful, given the subject, but it's good to know your friends are okay) --- is that it in our little band of brothers and sisters? Are we all accounted for now? It's easy three thousand miles away to forget this impacts people on a direct level a lot more than it does me, even if it does still shock, sadden and disgust me: it's like suddenly remembering you had relatives in Kobe or near Sandy Hook or something....

Janszoon 04-16-2013 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1307867)
He made that post way before I told everyone to take it somewhere else. No comments were made afterwards.

Yes, there were:

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Originally Posted by right-track (Post 1307695)
:pssst: Urban, whatever ever you do, don't mention the Troubles.
I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it.


Burning Down 04-16-2013 05:20 PM

Boston Marathon Bombing: Jordan Salafist Leader Celebrates

Scarlett O'Hara 04-16-2013 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1307873)

Sadly, I'm really not surprised. It's not the kind of thing the families of the injured or killed really want to be hearing about right now.

Janszoon 04-16-2013 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Burning Down (Post 1307873)

I wonder if this asshat understands that the marathon is something of an international event and one of the three people who died was Chinese not American.

TheBig3 04-16-2013 08:26 PM

Well this thread was a fun read. Obviously, yesterday was an absolute tragedy. But overall the city is doing very well to keep things moving. Massive charity runs were held tonight and innumerate fund raisers have sprung up for the victims families. One of the women who works with us lost her daughter who I'd guess to be 24-ish from photos. We also lost an 8-year old from the neighborhood I live in who's father was running. (I posted a photo of him below).

It smells to me like a deranged lone wolf. But as a lot of people have said, the good really showed their true colors and outweighed the bad. Here are some things that have cropped up in the last few days that I thought were really great. I love this city, its got a character you just can't replicate in other places. Everyone is really pulling together in such a seamless way.


From Patton Oswalt (taken from an article)
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“I don’t know what’s going to be revealed to be behind all of this mayhem,” the “King of Queens” actor wrote. “But here’s what I DO know. If it’s one person or a HUNDRED people, that number is not even a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of the population on this planet.”
Oswalt wrote that when the September 11th attacks occurred, “my reaction was, ‘Well, I’ve had it with humanity,’ but I was wrong.’” He continued that the lesson he’s learned is that the majority of the world’s population “stands against that darkness, and, like white blood cells attacking a virus, they dilute and weaken and eventually wash away the evil doers and more importantly, the damage they wreak.”
After pointing out that “if humanity were inherently evil, we’d have eaten ourselves alive long ago,” Oswalt concluded by offering a piece of advice for those looking for support.
“When you spot violence, or bigotry, or intolerance or fear or just garden-variety misogyny, hatred or ignorance, just look it in the eye,” he wrote. “Think, ‘The good outnumber you, and we always will.’”
Letter from Boston

Boston Never Leaves You

The Meaning of the Boston Marathon


http://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/...0667.jpg?w=650


Edit: Thanks for the concern guys, but you're going to have to try harder to get rid of me.

Stephen 04-16-2013 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1307912)

That's heart breaking. I'm sure he could never have suspected that some coward would take his life so senselessly.


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