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Old 04-19-2013, 11:15 AM   #201 (permalink)
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Right ... so does that imply that, should this murdering prick die, his father will take up their "cause" to avenge him? Or is he saying there will be repercussions against America? ****ing stupid thing to say really, considering the hurt that little wanker has already caused so many families in Boston. Who the hell cares if he dies, and if that's seen as some sort of threat then the father should be arrested.

Agree it's better if he's captured alive so that motive can be ascertained, but put up against the possibility he'll kill more while on the run, I think the "mad dog" solution is the only one: put the mother****er down now, before it's too late.

Wonder what Russia has to say about any of this, or if they've been asked?
It would certainly be nice if Russia made some sort of statement since the father made that threat from there.
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Old 04-19-2013, 11:17 AM   #202 (permalink)
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Only 26. He was the MIT officer killed last night.


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Old 04-19-2013, 11:21 AM   #203 (permalink)
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Only 26. He was the MIT officer killed last night.


So sad. Apparently he hadn't even confronted them, they just went up to him and shot him.
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Old 04-19-2013, 11:26 AM   #204 (permalink)
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Sounds like this might have more to do with him being muslim than being Chechen. Someone on my other forum posted this article from the Guardian.

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Miriam Elder has more on , 26, who has been identified as the man killed during a massive manhunt launched in the early hours of Friday.

A YouTube account that appears to have been run by Tsarnaev includes a playlist devoted to “terrorism”, including one video in English titled “The Emergence of Prophecy: The Black Flags from Khorasan. He also maintained a playlist devoted to Islam and one devoted to Timur Mutsuraev, a Chechen singer now in exile who sang of the republic's battle for freedom from Russia.

Tsarnaev's precise background is murky. A teacher at School No. 1 in Makhachkala, the capital of Dagestan, said that the Tsarnaev family lived briefly in the republic before moving to the United States. They had previously lived in Kyrgyzstan, in Central Asia, she said.

Alvi Karimov, a spokesman for Ramzan Kadyrov, the leader of Chechnya, said that the family had lived in Kazakhstan, which maintains a large Chechen minority. The Tsarnaevs “moved to a different region of the Russian Federation from Chechnya many years ago”, he told the Interfax news agency.

Tsarnaev appears to have been a competitive boxer, according to a photo report by photographer Johannes Hirn, who photographed Tsarnaev in 2010. Tsarnaev told the photographer that he was born in Chechnya and had been living in the US for five years.

“I don't have a single American friend, I don't understand them,” Tsarnaev said.

He also appeared to support Chechen independence: “Unless his native Chechnya becomes independent, Tamerlan says he would rather compete for the United States than for Russia,” one caption reads.

Tsarnaev presents himself as a devout Muslim, saying he had given up drinking and smoking. “I'm very religious,” he said, explaining why he doesn't take his shirt off while training. The photographs were taken at the Wai Kru Mixed Martial Arts centre in Allston, MA. The report says Tsarnaev was a student at Bunker Hill Community College in Charleston, MA.

In 2009, Tsarnaev was reportedly arrested for assaulting his girlfriend.
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Russian President Vladimir Putin sends a message of condolence to US President Barack Obama.
Mr Putin said he "strongly condemned this barbaric crime" and said the Russian Federation would be ready, if necessary, to assist in the investigation.
Glad to hear it.
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Old 04-19-2013, 11:29 AM   #206 (permalink)
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Yeah, good to hear. As for this guy, how can he say "I'm very religious" and yet butcher innocent people? I will never get that, if I live forever...
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Old 04-19-2013, 11:35 AM   #207 (permalink)
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Yeah, good to hear. As for this guy, how can he say "I'm very religious" and yet butcher innocent people? I will never get that, if I live forever...
People have used religion to justify atrocities for all of recorded history. I don't find it all that odd to hear yet another person do it.
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Yeah, religion doesn't create goodness in people. It just gives people justification to let their inner self out, either for good or bad.
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Old 04-19-2013, 11:40 AM   #209 (permalink)
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People have used religion to justify atrocities for all of recorded history. I don't find it all that odd to hear yet another person do it.

I don't think TH is saying he finds it surprising, I think he's saying it's reprehensible.
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Old 04-19-2013, 11:45 AM   #210 (permalink)
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They should be kept alive, that way they can be punished for their crimes, ****ing pigs. Don't deserve death imo.
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