North Korea At It Again

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 03-30-2013, 03:50 AM

So North Korea has just declared a state of war with South Korea. This is old news in terms of threats and attacks of South Korea but are the threats to US mainland just hot air?

Can anyone tell me why America allowed Stealth bombers in North K? Who is responsible for moves like that? Obama? The Democrats? The Air Force?

Do you think that one day a threat will turn into a reality? Are sanctions on North Korea going to stop them?

Here's a news article if you haven't already read one.

Unknown Soldier · 03-30-2013, 04:19 AM

I know this has been mentioned but I always thought that North Korea was permanantly in a state of war with South Korea anyway. As for whether North Korea is a threat truly remains to be seen but I guess for any of their neighbours and the US, there is the threat that they could fire these missiles. Their overall ambitions just seem to be flying the flag and being the last bastion of hope for communism and for uniting Korea as one country. Life in North Korea is said to be pretty dire with constant food shortages for its brainwashed population.

**Janszoon** · 03-30-2013, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

Can anyone tell me why America allowed Stealth bombers in North K?

According to the article you linked to the bombers were not in North Korea.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 03-30-2013, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

According to the article you linked to the bombers were not in North Korea.

Oh I heard on the news they did.

Hitch · 03-30-2013, 09:44 AM

I think most would agree that the chances of North Korea attacking Hawaii or California is zero. More than the nukes (which nobody knows about the regime's capability), they have a load of traditional artillery well within range to raze Seoul. In any case, I think the United States should stick it up and stand their ground now. It's high time someone got rid of these maniacs. And it's certainly not going to be Russia or China to take the lead.

hip hop bunny hop · 04-02-2013, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitch

I think most would agree that the chances of North Korea attacking Hawaii or California is zero. More than the nukes (which nobody knows about the regime's capability), they have a load of traditional artillery well within range to raze Seoul. In any case, I think the United States should stick it up and stand their ground now. It's high time someone got rid of these maniacs. And it's certainly not going to be Russia or China to take the lead.

It is really too bad such neocon jibberish such as the underlined is still being reproduced today. Military interventions should only take place when a nation's vital strategic interests are at risk. The United States has no such interest in the Korean peninsula, or throughout East Asia for that matter.

Hitch · 04-02-2013, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

It is really too bad such neocon jibberish such as the underlined is still being reproduced today. Military interventions should only take place when a nation's vital strategic interests are at risk. The United States has no such interest in the Korean peninsula, or throughout East Asia for that matter.

Well, the US always has had a military presence in the South (Korea) and apart from the aircrafts already mentioned, there have also been a few warships moved in place to presumably....say hi and have no interest I suppose. Now, if the North really does attack, it's their shortcut to a swift end (doesn't mean the ensuing conflict won't be ghastly and horrible). Which leaves us with...when are they going to give up? Their downfall in any case seems like it is destined for an hideous conflict. Any delusions of this regime running its course should be shelved. And North Korea isn't some pseudo "we are the oppressed against the US" political case. They may have some grounds if they hadn't subjected their population to misery and tyranny, let alone the shameless propaganda. I'd be glad to be proven wrong - where there's some magical renouncement of their nuclear weapons program and lifting of the massive restrictions placed on the population, but the elements required for such a change seems to be missing.

Now, I wasn't really making a case for military intervention, but more for a resolve to not back down after their empty little threats. By 'getting rid of them' meant to be ready to intervene, if they do decide to commit suicide.

hip hop bunny hop · 04-03-2013, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitch

Well, the US always has had a military presence in the South (Korea) and apart from the aircrafts already mentioned, there have also been a few warships moved in place to presumably....say hi and have no interest I suppose. Now, if the North really does attack, it's their shortcut to a swift end (doesn't mean the ensuing conflict won't be ghastly and horrible). Which leaves us with...when are they going to give up? Their downfall in any case seems like it is destined for an hideous conflict. Any delusions of this regime running its course should be shelved. And North Korea isn't some pseudo "we are the oppressed against the US" political case. They may have some grounds if they hadn't subjected their population to misery and tyranny, let alone the shameless propaganda. I'd be glad to be proven wrong - where there's some magical renouncement of their nuclear weapons program and lifting of the massive restrictions placed on the population, but the elements required for such a change seems to be missing.

Now, I wasn't really making a case for military intervention, but more for a resolve to not back down after their empty little threats. By 'getting rid of them' meant to be ready to intervene, if they do decide to commit suicide.

The underlined should have no basis on American foreign policy in any part of the world, let alone that in East Asia. Foreign policy should be restricted to protecting a nations vital interests, not the projection of moralism via military might.

duga · 03-30-2013, 10:51 AM

My brother lives in South Korea right now and he says most everyone there just kind laughs about the whole thing. They treat North Korea like a little kid that didn't get the new toy he wanted.

Burning Down · 03-30-2013, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by duga

My brother lives in South Korea right now and he says most everyone there just kind laughs about the whole thing. They treat North Korea like a little kid that didn't get the new toy he wanted.

I have a few friends teaching over there now and they've basically said the same thing.

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Hitch Music Addict Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 80	I think most would agree that the chances of North Korea attacking Hawaii or California is zero. More than the nukes (which nobody knows about the regime's capability), they have a load of traditional artillery well within range to raze Seoul. In any case, I think the United States should stick it up and stand their ground now. It's high time someone got rid of these maniacs. And it's certainly not going to be Russia or China to take the lead.