School Flips Out Over Gun Shaped Pop Tart. Suspends 7 Year Old.

Key · 03-04-2013, 10:26 AM

http://www.kisw.com/STP-s-BLOG-03-04...377?pid=300202

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Seven-year-old Josh Welch from Baltimore, Maryland was suspended from school for two days . . . because he ate a strawberry Pop-Tart that the school said was shaped like a gun. Apparently, Josh was biting into it, and trying to shape it like a mountain, but his teacher freaked out when she thought the shape was too close to a gun.

I heard about this story on the radio this morning, and it's beyond crazy. Suspended a 7 year old for accidentally making a gun shaped pop tart while eating it to make it look like a mountain. This has been rising some concern as to how sensitive society is these days about things relating to gun violence.

Thoughts?

The Batlord · 03-04-2013, 11:18 AM

I think it says more about how ludicrous our country's bureaucracy is. It's all about the school systems maintaining an image that shows just how serious they are about the situation, even if they have to go to retard levels of hysteria to do it. Same thing with the whole zero tolerance for violence. I'm sorry, but suspending someone defending themselves from a bully is ludicrous. I remember getting told by a guidance counselor back in elementary school that if I was being made fun of by a bully that I should try to make friends with them, or laugh along with them, or god knows what other bull**** some worthless bureaucrat moron pulled out of his ass.

CLOSER · 03-04-2013, 11:18 AM

I did not like the source for that article at all... and felt if I were to respond I should search elsewhere for the details...no offense

Josh Welch, Second-Grader, Suspended For Making Pastry 'Gun' In Class

7-Year-Old Suspended, Teacher Says He Shaped Pastry into Gun - WBFF FoxBaltimore - Featured

A suspension sounds like a horrendous consequence. With ADHD, the early years are times to nurture and foster the mind. One article says the child said "bang bang" - but that also sounds like an ad-lib that is not in the original Fox article.
AND to send a letter home with all the other students to alert them of what happened? Inflaming the issue... parental controversy and potential segregation from the class when he returns after his suspension? Josh will feel weird about eating pop tarts for the rest of his life..

**Goofle** · 03-04-2013, 11:20 AM

It would be fucking hard to make a gun shape out of a good ol' English pancake using just your teeth. Americans polluting the earth with gun shaped snacks.

Key · 03-04-2013, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I think it says more about how ludicrous our country's bureaucracy is. It's all about the school systems maintaining an image that shows just how serious they are about the situation, even if they have to go to retard levels of hysteria to do it. Same thing with the whole zero tolerance for violence. I'm sorry, but suspending someone defending themselves from a bully is ludicrous. I remember getting told by a guidance counselor back in elementary school that if I was being made fun of by a bully that I should try to make friends with them, or laugh along with them, or god knows what other bull**** some worthless bureaucrat moron pulled out of his ass.

There was another story of a guy who was raised to not hit a girl, even though the girl was bullying him. After a while, the principal told him he should stand up for himself, so the guy punched the girl in the nose, and got suspended for a week. I don't like the fact that if someone is told they should stand up for themselves, the result is negative either way. That's probably why a lot of people are afraid to stand up for themselves.

The Batlord · 03-04-2013, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ki

There was another story of a guy who was raised to not hit a girl, even though the girl was bullying him. After a while, the principal told him he should stand up for himself, so the guy punched the girl in the nose, and got suspended for a week. I don't like the fact that if someone is told they should stand up for themselves, the result is negative either way. That's probably why a lot of people are afraid to stand up for themselves.

Besides, I don't think there's any other logical response at times. I can probably count the number of times that words would have saved me from bullying on one hand. There's a hierarchy to school and life in general and if you can't properly navigate it then you are at the bottom. And violence seems to be an integral part of the school hierarchy.

Key · 03-04-2013, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Besides, I don't think there's any other logical response at times. I can probably count the number of times that words would have saved me from bullying on one hand. There's a hierarchy to school and life in general and if you can't properly navigate it then you are at the bottom. And violence seems to be an integral part of the school hierarchy.

I personally wouldn't resort to violence under any circumstance, but I do understand that words are at times not enough. Sometimes people need to be shown that what they're doing isn't right. However, that should be put into the hands of the parents of the bully, not the person being bullied.

Still, relating to the story I posted, I really hope the parents of the suspended kid do something to deal with this, because to me, it's just the school trying to make sure they make themselves look good.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 03-04-2013, 11:41 AM

I don't blame the teacher who suspended the kid at all. You can say she acted stupid, but I would ask why would she act in a way like this in the first place and I think the answer is obvious.

This is basically just an extreme over reaction because they're shit scared of having no power to do anything and getting sued by parents who get upset over the tiniest detail.

If you take this story the opposite way and it was in the news that a kids parents were suing a school because a kid was waving around a pop tart the shape of a gun and that their kid was traumatised by it, that wouldn't surprise me at all either sadly.

Blame the blame culture.

hip hop bunny hop · 03-04-2013, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki

I heard about this story on the radio this morning, and it's beyond crazy. Suspended a 7 year old for accidentally making a gun shaped pop tart while eating it to make it look like a mountain. This has been rising some concern as to how sensitive society is these days about things relating to gun violence.

Thoughts?

Why the **** would this be on a British radio station?

FRED HALE SR. · 03-04-2013, 06:17 PM

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Why the **** would this be on a British radio station?

Hes from Seattle dude.

03-04-2013, 11:41 AM	#8 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I don't blame the teacher who suspended the kid at all. You can say she acted stupid, but I would ask why would she act in a way like this in the first place and I think the answer is obvious. This is basically just an extreme over reaction because they're shit scared of having no power to do anything and getting sued by parents who get upset over the tiniest detail. If you take this story the opposite way and it was in the news that a kids parents were suing a school because a kid was waving around a pop tart the shape of a gun and that their kid was traumatised by it, that wouldn't surprise me at all either sadly. Blame the blame culture. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

03-04-2013, 11:18 AM	#3 (permalink)
CLOSER Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 113	I did not like the source for that article at all... and felt if I were to respond I should search elsewhere for the details...no offense Josh Welch, Second-Grader, Suspended For Making Pastry 'Gun' In Class 7-Year-Old Suspended, Teacher Says He Shaped Pastry into Gun - WBFF FoxBaltimore - Featured A suspension sounds like a horrendous consequence. With ADHD, the early years are times to nurture and foster the mind. One article says the child said "bang bang" - but that also sounds like an ad-lib that is not in the original Fox article. AND to send a letter home with all the other students to alert them of what happened? Inflaming the issue... parental controversy and potential segregation from the class when he returns after his suspension? Josh will feel weird about eating pop tarts for the rest of his life..