duga

Beings means exactly as it sounds...beings. We are 3d beings, so there would be 4d beings and 71d beings. We have no way of perceiving or imagining the totality of those beings, though we would be able to perceive 2 of their dimensions if those 2 dimensions happen to coincide with our particular 3 dimensional space.

Honestly, I can't explain it any better than those videos did. As far as actually interacting directly with a 4th dimensional being, I can try to elaborate on that a little. Starting with the 1 dimensional world...that means there are 2 directions to go. Since every other being in that world also has only 2 directions, the chances of interacting with them are pretty high. Even though they can't perceive the 2nd dimension, it still exists right along with it, only they now have 4 directions to go. Even though they could still very easily interact with the 1d world, the chances that a 2d being will interact with a 1d being is significantly diminished, if only because it has more "directions" to go while the 1d guys are stuck going left or right. The same applies further up the ladder...even though we could interact with a 4d being, since they have that extra dimension to wonder around in the chance that we will actually interact with them is very slim. We could even theoretically interact with 71d beings since they do exist right along with us, only the chance that they will directly interact with our particular 3d niche is INCREDIBLY low.

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PoorOldPo

So then does that mean there is a version of me in the second dimension? if all different versions of me are coming from the one source then... Woah I am confused. Alright, how does one actually interact with the second dimension, why can I not see little beings floating around in the second dimension?

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duga

No, it doesn't mean there is a version of you in the second dimension. That dimension is (theoretically) inhabited by strictly 2 dimensional beings. Work your way up in the dimensions and (also theoretically) the beings there would exponentially increase in complexity and intelligence. Our minds are tuned to think in 3 dimensions, so adding an exponential amount of new potential directions to go would require that much more intelligence. What is possible, though, is that different versions of you exist in the stacked 3d dimensional worlds perceived by the 4d beings (as mentioned in the videos a 2d world is composed of an infinite amount of stacked 1d lines while the 3d world is composed of an infinite amount of stacked 2d planes). Again, there is no way to even have a clue if that is the truth of it...this is all theoretical. The only thing we can really say with any amount of certainty is that there really are additional dimensions. Everything else is purely theoretical, and it's really anyone's guess.

As for you interacting with the 2d worlds...you do it all the time. However, we are tuned to perceive the 3d world and our brains filter information considered extraneous. It wouldn't be a stretch to consider interacting with comparatively simple 2d beings an extraneous activity, so your brain most likely filters any interactions you have with them (if 2d beings exist at all). I would also assume the same goes for 4d beings interacting with us...to them, we are incredibly simple creatures going about our business and they probably don't even perceive that we are there.

What do you mean about coming from one source? I don't think I mentioned that. This is a very confusing topic and a very difficult one to explain (I think Carl Sagan did it best...that guy is the man). I hope I got across what I was trying to explain, but just in case I'll try to use another analogy.

Imagine your car can only drive on one 2 way street going east and west. There are other cars also stuck on this 2 way street. You see them all the time because they are stuck there with you. However, another street going north and south also exists, only you can't go there. The cars on that street, however, can drive on your street just fine. So, you can see them when they drive on your street, but since they have a whole other street to drive on, you don't see them all the time. Now add another LEVEL of streets...like a parking garage. The same rules apply..the cars on the second level can drive on your street, but you can't get to the second level. However, since they now have EVEN MORE streets to drive on than even the north south guys, the chances that they will be on your street get EVEN LOWER.

That's basically an incredibly simplistic way of trying to think about why we don't see 4d beings floating around everywhere...it's just that the chance they pop up in our particular plane of existence is very low only because they have so many other planes to move around on.

Please ask more questions, too...I really love talking about this kind of stuff.

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PoorOldPo

I have loads more questions.

Okay so, these four dimensional beings, and fifth and so on...What about if some of the explainable things that happen in our world, the things we think are supernatural, are actual just accidental interactions with them, or deliberate. Imagine a fourth dimensional being trying to freak one of us out, considering it had some kind of sense of humour. Like when people see strange things, like I dunno, what we would call a ghost. like for instance, I saw some strange **** when I was four years old, an old woman in a veil outside my back door at night, and she was glowing. Or my sister getting pushed forward violently by something hitting her in the shoulder, despite the fact nothing or no one was behind her. That kinda ****.



Now we are getting into psychedelic territory. ^^

The experiences that people have on acid and mushroom trips, could these possibly be interactions with higher beings in higher dimensions? What are your opinions?





If you have smoke I strongly recommend watching them all straight through blazed.

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duga

Haha...I was wondering if we would get there. In a nutshell, yes...I think a lot of unexplainable occurrences can be explained by interactions with another dimension. In fact, a lot of physicists believe that certain particles appearing and disappearing inexplicably are the result of them traveling dimensions, and these are observed in labs all the time. I do also feel (as do a lot of scientists out there) that taking psychedelics does open up our perception to a taste of the extra-dimensional world. While taking DMT, a lot of people report "intelligent" geometric shapes...my hypothesis is a lot of this is actually us perceiving the 2d world. A lot of the unexplainable stuff that happens during a breakthrough trip could also be a hint of the 4d world (again...our minds would not even be able to comprehend that this is what we are seeing - as Carl Sagan put it, that dimension is completely out of our experience). In fact, it is hard for our minds to even store that experience in memory, so we start focusing on the feelings we had and end up feeling as if it was a religious experience (for those who have taken a psychedelic - the experience you describe is nowhere near the actual experience, no?). All we are left with is the impression that something we won't ever be able to understand just happened to us...just like when Carl Sagan's 2d shape tried to explain his experience with the apple.

Seeing full blow apparitions that look human, though...I don't know about that one. My own personal beliefs are that the human mind carries so much energy that an unexpected and rapid death creates some kind of "imprint"...much like radiation. But that's a theory for another thread.

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I find this incredibly interesting because of the vast difference in the perceptions that living things possess. We study the vision and thermal senses of animals such as snakes, birds, bees, and fish and find that they vary quite immensely and interestingly. I believe that our perception of "dimension" is unfortunately quite limited, mostly because our brain's capability to process complex environments is limited. Think about being underwater and the effect it has on your reality, now think about being in the vastness of space. Our ability to survive and function in the majority universe is quite low, despite it being made up of the same elements we are. Add in the idea that the universe is roughly one large goo of particles in a constant reconfiguration, with large waves of atoms, particles, and molecules collide and chaotically reshape the universe like an ocean, and it becomes harder to imagine what other dimensions could possibly be perceived as, or what kind of "beings" exist on those planes. I believe it is unlikely they would exist in any fashion that we could understand so I would hesitate to say we will ever comprehend them.

Also, the idea of the imprint is awesome. I wonder what happens to our atoms when we die, and if there is a significance to atoms that have held "life" after that life has passed on. If existence is one continuity, then what would happen to our conscience after our physical and sensory understanding of the world was removed?

WWWP

Way ahead of you.

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Engine

I assume you're talking about Sagan's Cosmos series?
Interestingly Sagan was a smoker and was personally active in the anti-prohibition movement. Cosmos is an excellent watch regardless of your intoxication choices because, as duga mentioned, Sagan was a genius who was able to communicate his ideas easily with us lesser beings.

Also, I'm not sure if he gets high but the current leading genius, Neil Degrasse Tyson, has an essential radio show and podcast (StarTalk) for anyone interested in astrophysics and such.

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PoorOldPo

Gonna check him out! Thanks for pointing me his way!



I thought as much

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Janszoon

Neil deGrasse Tyson is one of my favorite people ever. I need to check out that podcast.

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