Dimensions and Their Numerical Progression

FETCHER. · 02-12-2013, 07:40 AM

Haha, cheers! I will add them to my faves n watch later

Stephen · 02-12-2013, 05:37 PM

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Well we know the fourth dimension is there, we just can't comprehend it basically. It is all relative, just as a 2 dimensional being cannot comprehend the concept of "up".

Except there aren't two dimensional beings so it's using something theoretical to explain why we can't comprehend something else that's theoretical.

PoorOldPo · 02-12-2013, 06:22 PM

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Except there aren't two dimensional beings so it's using something theoretical to explain why we can't comprehend something else that's theoretical.

How do we know that there are no two dimensional beings when we cannot really observe it properly? Correct me if i am wrong, but aren't all of the dimensions part of a larger thing, and not simply seperate dimensions? Therefore if they are all in and out of themselves, part of the same thing, and there are "beings" in the third dimension, then surely there are representations of those beings in this dimension in every other dimension. Or reflections.

Stephen · 02-12-2013, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PoorOldPo

How do we know that there are no two dimensional beings when we cannot really observe it properly? Correct me if i am wrong, but aren't all of the dimensions part of a larger thing, and not simply seperate dimensions? Therefore if they are all in and out of themselves, part of the same thing, and there are "beings" in the third dimension, then surely there are representations of those beings in this dimension in every other dimension. Or reflections.

Yeah I don't know. I guess dimensions are really another mathematical concept that makes a convenient frame of reference for us to conceive the broader picture.

duga · 02-12-2013, 07:21 PM

I would really like to talk about this while taking something like DMT.

I keep wanting to come back in here to continue the discussion...but my brain is spent.

And Po...as for what you were saying...if we can barely conceive of the basic idea higher order dimensions, there is absolutely no way we can think about our relationship to beings residing in them. As for 2-d beings...I tend to think of those on a more consciousness-oriented level. Singe celled organisms think in 2 dimensions...go towards this and move away from that. I doubt they can perceive our existence on any level at all...much like us and higher dimensional beings.

PoorOldPo · 02-12-2013, 07:27 PM

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I would really like to talk about this while taking something like DMT.

I keep wanting to come back in here to continue the discussion...but my brain is spent.

And Po...as for what you were saying...if we can barely conceive of the basic idea higher order dimensions, there is absolutely no way we can think about our relationship to beings residing in them. As for 2-d beings...I tend to think of those on a more consciousness-oriented level. Singe celled organisms think in 2 dimensions...go towards this and move away from that. I doubt they can perceive our existence on any level at all...much like us and higher dimensional beings.

The thing that always boggles me about the 2 dimensional beings is, where are they, I know I have asked you questions similar to this, but are they amongst my surroundings at this moment in time, in my table, in me even, and I just cannot see them? If four dimensional beings can see me why can I not see 2 dimensional beings, maybe 4 dimensional beings cannot see me then given that point of referance. lol. This thread is going to make an interesting read over later on.

duga · 02-12-2013, 07:35 PM

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Again, I consider bacteria and single celled organisms to be 2d beings. You are used to thinking of dimensions in a visual way, but that's just a small part of it. Sure, bacteria exist in our 3d world, but their conscious perception of it is 2 dimensional (if it could be considered conscious perception). So you are right in that we exist in all dimensions...but our perception of it is limited to 3 of its dimensions.

PoorOldPo · 02-12-2013, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by duga

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Again, I consider bacteria and single celled organisms to be 2d beings. You are used to thinking of dimensions in a visual way, but that's just a small part of it. Sure, bacteria exist in our 3d world, but their conscious perception of it is 2 dimensional (if it could be considered conscious perception). So you are right in that we exist in all dimensions...but our perception of it is limited to 3 of its dimensions.

Now that is fascinating! 1 dimensional beings on the other hand! :P

Did you see that playlist I sent linked to Fetcher? It has stuff about the fifth dimension up to the eleventh. Showed it to my father and it blew his mind.

duga · 02-12-2013, 08:25 PM

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Now that is fascinating! 1 dimensional beings on the other hand! :P

Did you see that playlist I sent linked to Fetcher? It has stuff about the fifth dimension up to the eleventh. Showed it to my father and it blew his mind.

Haha I'd have to think about 1d beings a little harder to come up with something there.

I'll have to check out that playlist as well. I'll report back when I do.

Guybrush · 02-13-2013, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by duga

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Again, I consider bacteria and single celled organisms to be 2d beings. You are used to thinking of dimensions in a visual way, but that's just a small part of it. Sure, bacteria exist in our 3d world, but their conscious perception of it is 2 dimensional (if it could be considered conscious perception). So you are right in that we exist in all dimensions...but our perception of it is limited to 3 of its dimensions.

Just have to voice out that I fundamentally disagree with this. Generally speaking, single cells like bacteria, unicellular algae or even sperm have length, width and height and they exist in and relate to a world which clearly has 3 dimensions. If you were smaller, it wouldn't reduce the amount of dimensions in the world, even if you were blind.

Why would the world seem 2d to a plankton or gut bacteria?

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duga MB quadrant's JM Vincent Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 3,762	I would really like to talk about this while taking something like DMT. I keep wanting to come back in here to continue the discussion...but my brain is spent. And Po...as for what you were saying...if we can barely conceive of the basic idea higher order dimensions, there is absolutely no way we can think about our relationship to beings residing in them. As for 2-d beings...I tend to think of those on a more consciousness-oriented level. Singe celled organisms think in 2 dimensions...go towards this and move away from that. I doubt they can perceive our existence on any level at all...much like us and higher dimensional beings. __________________ Confusion will be my epitaph...

02-12-2013, 07:35 PM	#77 (permalink)
duga MB quadrant's JM Vincent Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 3,762	^ Again, I consider bacteria and single celled organisms to be 2d beings. You are used to thinking of dimensions in a visual way, but that's just a small part of it. Sure, bacteria exist in our 3d world, but their conscious perception of it is 2 dimensional (if it could be considered conscious perception). So you are right in that we exist in all dimensions...but our perception of it is limited to 3 of its dimensions. __________________ Confusion will be my epitaph...