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Old 12-24-2012, 03:20 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I am still quite confused about the second dimension and first dimension though, and how we cannot see the beings in these dimensions. And whether or not they can see us. Gonna do some more research tonight.
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Old 12-24-2012, 03:46 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Like I said, we don't even know if there are 1d or 2d beings. Or any other beings outside our dimension...it's all theoretical. They CAN also see us, but it would be like our crazy supernatural experiences. Just go back to my street/car analogy. What else is confusing about it?

As for US seeing 1d or 2d beings...like I said, we probably see them everywhere. Even the simplest organism on Earth is still a 3d entity, and decidedly more complex than ANYTHING in the 2d or 1d worlds. Therefore, our brains probably find those entities inconsequential and we filter them out, not even realizing we are seeing them RIGHT THERE.
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Old 12-24-2012, 06:18 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Old 12-24-2012, 06:47 PM   #14 (permalink)
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If you have smoke I strongly recommend watching them all straight through blazed.
I assume you're talking about Sagan's Cosmos series?
Interestingly Sagan was a smoker and was personally active in the anti-prohibition movement. Cosmos is an excellent watch regardless of your intoxication choices because, as duga mentioned, Sagan was a genius who was able to communicate his ideas easily with us lesser beings.

Also, I'm not sure if he gets high but the current leading genius, Neil Degrasse Tyson, has an essential radio show and podcast (StarTalk) for anyone interested in astrophysics and such.
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Old 12-24-2012, 08:44 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I assume you're talking about Sagan's Cosmos series?
Interestingly Sagan was a smoker and was personally active in the anti-prohibition movement. Cosmos is an excellent watch regardless of your intoxication choices because, as duga mentioned, Sagan was a genius who was able to communicate his ideas easily with us lesser beings.

Also, I'm not sure if he gets high but the current leading genius, Neil Degrasse Tyson, has an essential radio show and podcast (StarTalk) for anyone interested in astrophysics and such.
Gonna check him out! Thanks for pointing me his way!

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Old 12-24-2012, 10:36 PM   #16 (permalink)
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i've been thinking about this stuff for probably over a decade... and i still can't wrap my head around it.

but i'm convinced the fourth dimension is silent and very crowded.
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Crowded with what? And why are you convinced?
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:55 PM   #18 (permalink)
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well, it just seems like like the fourth dimension is the multiverse, wherein every possibility is simultaneously taking place, at an UNdimensional UN-point of pure conscious awareness. it doesn't seem to me like imagining it as a physical construct is possible, so by deduction, it must be not physical.

sagan said something about the perceptual "punishment" of being trapped in the third dimension, and personally, i equate that with our inability to perceive things as existing outside it, because that's what we're limited to... perceiving things.

so when i think about using what i'm inherently equipped with to experience a higher dimensional plane, it is my curse that i look at it as far more confined than the expanse that is 3D reality.

it should also be noted that when i wrote my previous statement, it was meant to induce some chuckles... i had no intention of explaining myself. again, i can't wrap my head around it, so an explanation is kinda nullified... but i tried anyway.
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well, it just seems like like the fourth dimension is the multiverse, wherein every possibility is simultaneously taking place, at an UNdimensional UN-point of pure conscious awareness. it doesn't seem to me like imagining it as a physical construct is possible, so by deduction, it must be not physical.

sagan said something about the perceptual "punishment" of being trapped in the third dimension, and personally, i equate that with our inability to perceive things as existing outside it, because that's what we're limited to... perceiving things.

so when i think about using what i'm inherently equipped with to experience a higher dimensional plane, it is my curse that i look at it as far more confined than the expanse that is 3D reality.

it should also be noted that when i wrote my previous statement, it was meant to induce some chuckles... i had no intention of explaining myself. again, i can't wrap my head around it, so an explanation is kinda nullified... but i tried anyway.
Yeah man, three dimensional reality is a total bummer maaan I would love to start up a conversation like that on public transport just to freak the every day joe out. I must say I am incredibly fascinated with this whole subject and hope to become less ignorant about it for the rest of my life. I never took an interest in this subject before, and now that I have, I am obsessed.
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Also, I'm not sure if he gets high but the current leading genius, Neil Degrasse Tyson, has an essential radio show and podcast (StarTalk) for anyone interested in astrophysics and such.
Neil deGrasse Tyson is one of my favorite people ever. I need to check out that podcast.
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