Children killed in Connecticut school shooting (likely 27 dead,including 18 children)

hip hop bunny hop · 12-30-2012, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

The early settlers are the real pioneers and are those venturing into the unknown, later immigrants have it just as hard and often face resentment from earlier settlers, but they had the advantage of knowing what to expect, along with usually having their own ethnic group getting/being established there

The underlined is wrong. Centuries of warfare between frontiersmen & the "earlier settlers" (indians) is in no way equitable to being kicked out of a saloon for being a greasy wop. It's not the same.

Unknown Soldier · 12-30-2012, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

The underlined is wrong. Centuries of warfare between frontiersmen & the "earlier settlers" (indians) is in no way equitable to being kicked out of a saloon for being a greasy wop. It's not the same.

The underlined is not wrong and your example is just relative to its time period that is all. Modern immigrants have faced their own issues, just because they didn't face getting stuck with a load of arrows, doesn't mean they didn't have it just as hard. The only type of easy immigration, is when somebody goes to a guaranteed job with decent conditions or at least has the chance of attaining that. Any immigrant that doesn't qualify for that, is going to have it hard unless they are facing persecution in their in their own country.

Neapolitan · 12-30-2012, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

The underlined is wrong. Centuries of warfare between frontiersmen & the "earlier settlers" (indians) is in no way equitable to being kicked out of a saloon for being a greasy wop. It's not the same.

Now you are beginnig to sound like Bill the Butcher from Streets of New York.

The Chinese who came over during the Gold Rush were kicked out of the country. The Irish suffered many hardships as new immigrants to America, what they faced in Ireland was persecution and starvation. There was a strong Anti-Italian sentiment in the US and many left for Canada and Brazil. Each group (Indians, Pilgrims, Squatters, post Civil War immigrants etc etc) has their own story of hardships, each had a different set of circumstances. I don't see it as who faced more or less persecution.