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Old 12-26-2012, 12:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The article is as you say initially, but on closer focus it actually tells a different story. Firstly, a percentage of the so called American citizens are actually going to be the children of immigrants, who possibly due to their less than brilliant social environment are going to be the perpetrators of crime (the article actually mentions this) so I didn't need to read between the lines here.
The vast majority of the population of the United States (read: mainstream America) is comprised of the descendants of immigrants, many of them only a generation or two removed, so your comments here don't really have much significance. You'll note that, far from the way you're painting it, the article states, "that the longer one is exposed to American culture, the more likely you are to participate in violence."

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Secondly, the article is referring to those immigrants that have moved to the USA through legal channels hence they are going to be law-abidding citizens (again the article states this) these factors can more or less be applied to most countries that take in large numbers of immigrants.

I was actually referring to those immigrants that have bypassed the checks and jumped the queue, these are the suspect immigrants who are just as capable of committing crimes as locals, which is why in a lot of countries background checks are actually much higher than they were.
Look at the article again. The crime rates data that they cite doesn't distinguish between legal and illegal immigrants. In other words, even when you include illegal immigrants in the mix, the crime rates are still lower than the natural-born population.

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I could talk to you about gun laws which focuses more on the thread in question, but the whole concept of guns in society is completely alien to us in the UK.
Well, you don't have people running across the border there either but you're still talking about immigration.

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Why the **** are we talking about immigrants?
This is what I'm saying.
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