Children killed in Connecticut school shooting (likely 27 dead,including 18 children)

PoorOldPo · 12-25-2012, 10:42 AM

No one really gets shot in Ireland. You get the odd stabbing every once and a while though. My dad has a shotgun, and knows how to use it, but that is because he is from a farming backround, I also sort of know how to use it, although I doubt I will ever have to. There is definitely something wrong with America right now, and I have heard both arguments in relation to the gun issue, I honestly don't know what would be better.It is going to get much worse before it gets better I'm afraid.

hip hop bunny hop · 12-25-2012, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PoorOldPo

No one really gets shot in Ireland. You get the odd stabbing every once and a while though. My dad has a shotgun, and knows how to use it, but that is because he is from a farming backround, I also sort of know how to use it, although I doubt I will ever have to. There is definitely something wrong with America right now, and I have heard both arguments in relation to the gun issue, I honestly don't know what would be better.It is going to get much worse before it gets better I'm afraid.

School shootings & civilian-on-civilian massacres are nothing new in this country.

The U.S. will have higher rates of violence. Why? Because the majority of people in this country are descended from immigrants, meaning they've a higher tendency towards risky behavior than the population of the country they left behind. This has rather obvious implications on the prevalence of violence.

PoorOldPo · 12-25-2012, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

School shootings & civilian-on-civilian massacres are nothing new in this country.

The U.S. will have higher rates of violence. Why? Because the majority of people in this country are descended from immigrants, meaning they've a higher tendency towards risky behavior than the population of the country they left behind. This has rather obvious implications on the prevalence of violence.

Everyone is an immigrant from somewhere so.....I don't agree.

Burning Down · 12-25-2012, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

School shootings & civilian-on-civilian massacres are nothing new in this country.

The U.S. will have higher rates of violence. Why? Because the majority of people in this country are descended from immigrants, meaning they've a higher tendency towards risky behavior than the population of the country they left behind. This has rather obvious implications on the prevalence of violence.

The same thing can be said about Canada but you don't see us shooting up schools and movie theatres and temples... the last major mass shooting here was almost 8 years ago and the one before that.... I don't even know. That's how rarely it happens here.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 12-26-2012, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

School shootings & civilian-on-civilian massacres are nothing new in this country.

The U.S. will have higher rates of violence. Why? Because the majority of people in this country are descended from immigrants, meaning they've a higher tendency towards risky behavior than the population of the country they left behind. This has rather obvious implications on the prevalence of violence.

Ah how wonderful, you're here.

Neapolitan · 12-26-2012, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

School shootings & civilian-on-civilian massacres are nothing new in this country.

The U.S. will have higher rates of violence. Why? Because the majority of people in this country are descended from immigrants, meaning they've a higher tendency towards risky behavior than the population of the country they left behind. This has rather obvious implications on the prevalence of violence.

Good point, Attila the Hun and Napoleon Bonaparte immigrated all over the place exhibiting risky behaviour.

Unknown Soldier · 12-26-2012, 03:25 AM

I think what HHBH is trying to imply, is that the USA is made up of immigrants from literally everywhere and most of those would've come from the lower levels of society from the country where they came from, hence violence and risky behaviour wasn't anything new to them.

**Janszoon** · 12-26-2012, 06:05 AM

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I think what HHBH is trying to imply, is that the USA is made up of immigrants from literally everywhere and most of those would've come from the lower levels of society from the country where they came from, hence violence and risky behaviour wasn't anything new to them.

Wouldn't that also be true of Canada though?

Unknown Soldier · 12-26-2012, 06:49 AM

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Wouldn't that also be true of Canada though?

The best way to asses this, is to look at four English speaking countries that have been built up on immigration. These four would be the USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Then looking at the ratio of gun ownership and how it relates to gun crime in each of the respective countries. I' sure there are stats out there for this. Then one of the most crucial factors is the type of immigration that each country attracts.

Initially both the USA and Australia took anybody before they really tightened up on their immigration criteria, whereas Canada and New Zealand have always been more restrictive on the type of immigrants that they let in.

**Janszoon** · 12-26-2012, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

The best way to asses this, is to look at four English speaking countries that have been built up on immigration. These four would be the USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Then looking at the ratio of gun ownership and how it relates to gun crime in each of the respective countries. I' sure there are stats out there for this. Then one of the most crucial factors is the type of immigration that each country attracts.

Initially both the USA and Australia took anybody before they really tightened up on their immigration criteria, whereas Canada and New Zealand have always been more restrictive on the type of immigrants that they let in.

I'm not sure if that's actually true or not, but assuming it is, so what? HHBH's point was that immigrants are by definition risk-takers so it shouldn't really matter what "type" were let in, all of them would still be risk-takers.

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