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12-26-2012, 11:14 AM | #381 (permalink) | |
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So you don't think that the majority of crimes are economically motivated?
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12-26-2012, 11:16 AM | #382 (permalink) |
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Isn't economics a little broad to make a statement like that? Tell me which crime isn't the result of a need for self-preservation.
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12-26-2012, 11:35 AM | #384 (permalink) | |
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Everything, the point I've been making is that restrictive immigration (fulfilling a criteria) leads to their better integration into the society that they're moving to. As new immigrants are usually at the bottom end of the economic ladder when they move, they are more prone to be involved in crimes than more established immigrants. Which is why I asked you, if you think most crimes are economically motivated or not.
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12-26-2012, 11:50 AM | #385 (permalink) | |
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But none of this has anything to do with immigration because, as I stated previously, immigrants to the US don't commit crimes at a higher rate than non-immigrants. |
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For the record, i'm actually a very strong advocate of immigration and believe people should always have freedom of movement to improve their lives and try and go wherever they want, but it does come with initial growing pains!
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12-26-2012, 12:10 PM | #388 (permalink) |
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12-26-2012, 12:15 PM | #389 (permalink) | ||
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Canada's current policy is actually a reaction to the looser immigration that was previously practiced by other countries. I once read an article about this exact issue and Canada a few years ago, sadly I've no idea what is was called.
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12-26-2012, 12:28 PM | #390 (permalink) | |
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I never said I don't think crimes are economically motivated, I said I'm not sure if most are or not. Things like theft presumably are of course, but I don't really see what that has to with a conversation about homicide and gun control. So the real question becomes: Is murder an economically motivated crime? My answer to that is I don't know. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. Sometimes economic status plays a role in an indirect way, but that's different from being the motivation for the crime. Now as far as immigration goes, you can keep claiming that immigrants are more likely to commit crime but the data is on my side here. According to this article, for example, natural-born US citizens are five times more likely to end up in prison than immigrants. |
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