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Old 12-16-2012, 08:31 PM   #221 (permalink)
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No, it really isn't.
Bear in mind I'm not talking about the demographics of the population as much as politicians. America has a lot of ethnic, cultural, religious, and racial diversity in its population, but that's not reflected in either your government or your wealthiest citizens (IE, those citizens with the most political power and influence). In fact, of your 150 wealthiest people, not one of them is black. On top of that, only 3 of the US states have ever had a Black Senator, and only ONE US state has had a Black Senator in the 21st century.

On top of THAT, whatever you may believe, I think it speaks volumes that when running against Obama to become the democratic candidate in 2008, Hillary Clinton's campaign team apparently sought to gain an advantage by photoshopping Obama's campaign image to make him have darker skin. This is a woman who was gunning for president of the US, and she chose that approach?
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Old 12-16-2012, 08:48 PM   #222 (permalink)
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Bear in mind I'm not talking about the demographics of the population as much as politicians. America has a lot of ethnic, cultural, religious, and racial diversity in its population, but that's not reflected in either your government or your wealthiest citizens (IE, those citizens with the most political power and influence). In fact, of your 150 wealthiest people, not one of them is black. On top of that, only 3 of the US states have ever had a Black Senator.

On top of THAT, whatever you may believe, I think it speaks volumes that when running against Obama to become the democratic candidate in 2008, Hillary Clinton's campaign team sought to gain an advantage by photoshopping Obama's campaign image to make him have darker skin. This is a woman who was gunning for president of the US, and she chose that approach?
Did you just use a political campaign that couldn't even make it past the primaries as an example of "America's political center"?
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Old 12-16-2012, 08:49 PM   #223 (permalink)
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This is so sad. I can't believe it! I feel so bad for all the families affected and the community at large.

Absolutely terrible.
The sad part is this even will be etched in the minds and hearts of the family, friends and schoolmates of those victims forever. It will be a tragedic loss that will be them always. It is absolutely depressing.
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Old 12-16-2012, 08:55 PM   #224 (permalink)
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Did you just use a political campaign that couldn't even make it past the primaries as an example of "America's political center"?
The wife of an ex president either decided on her own or was advised to play up her opponents race in order to attain success. Then again, you might be right. Maybe her campaign staff were just idiots. Romney was advised to campaign heavily in favour of waterboarding after all... then again, even Romney was smart enough not to actually DO it.
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Bloozcruz posts a video and changes the subject - great post on the problems with mental illness being the real problem ignored.

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Bloozcruz posts a video and changes the subject - great post on the problems with mental illness being the real problem ignored.

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Old 12-16-2012, 09:24 PM   #227 (permalink)
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Go **** yourself, internet.
I think it may have been discussed more if the person who posted it hadn't just posted the link, and had in fact elaborated on their own view of the article in question.

Regardless, I read the article, and much of it is very true and very correct. I probably would have responded to it, but I made the mistake of reading the comments, and one person dismissing the entire concept of mental illness. As someone whose family works with the disabled, who has disabled family, and who has friends and family who have suffered, in some cases quite badly, from mental illness, this resulted in me doing something I practically never, ever do, which was to be genuinely angry at something on the internet. As hard as it may be to believe, as heated as I may get in a discussion, I am almost never, ever actually annoyed in a real and tangible sense. However dismissing the entire concept of mental illness as mental weakness, rather sets me off.

Ergo I relieved my frustrations over an IM with someone rather than rage at the empty, soulless void of the wider internet. So, sorry, that meant I didn't write about it in this thread. But maybe someone else would have, if you'd added even a single word of your own ("Thoughts?") in order to start the discussion.
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Old 12-16-2012, 09:33 PM   #228 (permalink)
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I think it may have been discussed more if the person who posted it hadn't just posted the link, and had in fact elaborated on their own view of the article in question.

Regardless, I read the article, and much of it is very true and very correct. I probably would have responded to it, but I made the mistake of reading the comments, and one person dismissing the entire concept of mental illness. As someone whose family works with the disabled, who has disabled family, and who has friends and family who have suffered, in some cases quite badly, from mental illness, this resulted in me doing something I practically never, ever do, which was to be genuinely angry at something on the internet. As hard as it may be to believe, as heated as I may get in a discussion, I am almost never, ever actually annoyed in a real and tangible sense. However dismissing the entire concept of mental illness as mental weakness, rather sets me off.

Ergo I relieved my frustrations over an IM with someone rather than rage at the empty, soulless void of the wider internet. So, sorry, that meant I didn't write about it in this thread. But maybe someone else would have, if you'd added even a single word of your own ("Thoughts?") in order to start the discussion.
Yes maybe if I wasn't such a lazy **** and had given my opinion on it, someone then might have ignored the pissing match over a video that was off-topic and unrelated.

Except that my posts prior were related to the topic I posted a link about.
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Old 12-16-2012, 10:02 PM   #229 (permalink)
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America has increasingly become a violent place. That is the reality. More people and more want weapons. And most people who want those are bunch of unstable individuals like Adam Lanza. We need to do something on guns always more fools end up with weapons and we will witness another tragedy like this.
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