Children killed in Connecticut school shooting (likely 27 dead,including 18 children)

Blarobbarg · 12-15-2012, 10:53 AM

I know you guys are having fun arguing whether or not guns will ever go away (they won't) or how violence can be stopped (with much difficulty), but here's another horrible news story of a maniac attacking children, that happened on the exact same day. Human beings have the potential to do more evil than I can imagine.

Villager slashes 22 kids with knife at elementary school gates in China - World News

EDIT: Note, this isn't some sort of sneaky way to express my views on violence and guns, this is just a horrible, related bit of news that I wanted to share.

TheBig3 · 12-15-2012, 10:07 AM

The problem with your figures is they don't refute my arguement. America can't be stacked against England because our states have different gun laws. And more importantly, they have different laws regarding the information I laid out as a better plan.

As an example Texas in 2011 had a Firearms Murder rate of 3.19 for every 100,000 people. Conversely, Vermont has a .039 murder rate regarding firearms.

Vermont has more lax gun control laws than Texas does, but it also has a Socialist Senator. Meanwhile, during Texas's massive wildfires, their governor told the population the best response is prayer.

Its not guns. And you haven't told me how gun control would prevent the mass killings I suggested which are more effective and easier to pull off.

FETCHER. · 12-15-2012, 11:54 AM

I don't see how Americans don't want the system we have in place here, it's not like you can't have guns for hobbies. My friends dad has a gun licence and special cupboard to keep them in because he uses them for hunting. So what is the problem?

rostasi · 12-15-2012, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by FETCHER.

I don't see how Americans don't want the system we have in place here, it's not like you can't have guns for hobbies. My friends dad has a gun licence and special cupboard to keep them in because he uses them for hunting. So what is the problem?

Ted Nugent

Justthefacts · 12-15-2012, 12:50 PM

What sort of "meaningful" action is Obama going through with?

Franco Pepe Kalle · 12-15-2012, 01:47 PM

What can Obama do? Really, you think NRA aren't going to stop Obama for trying to stop some these redicilous loopholes that these fools have to go through so there is no background check. I mean seriously, there will be nothing done on this issue because NRA won't let any change happen any time soon.

Burning Down · 12-15-2012, 03:06 PM

The NRA spends millions per year on lobbying, and because their lobbyists are so strong, I don't see the Obama administration getting as far with implementing stricter gun laws as they'd like to.

Bloozcrooz · 12-15-2012, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Burning Down

The NRA spends millions per year on lobbying, and because their lobbyists are so strong, I don't see the Obama administration getting as far with implementing stricter gun laws as they'd like to.

Did you watch any of the clips I posted in my last post? It speaks rather loudly as to who will control gun traded no matter what the law says.

TheBig3 · 12-15-2012, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FETCHER.

I don't see how Americans don't want the system we have in place here, it's not like you can't have guns for hobbies. My friends dad has a gun licence and special cupboard to keep them in because he uses them for hunting. So what is the problem?

But thats what I'm saying. I have the system you do, but khfreak (for example) doesn't.

Bloozcrooz · 12-15-2012, 02:29 PM

Though the population of some towns pales in comparison to towns the size of L.A. The same gangs have intergrated themselves into even the most unimaginable remote areas of the United States. Smaller in numbers yes, but never the less live by the same code and moral. The town closet to me is around 80,000 and has seen everyone of these gangs I mentioned in a previous post intergrate themselves into the population. Some of which originated in prison and later continued to progressively grow into society. Some of the films start from where the gangs originated from, and continue to show how they have grown in strength and numbers to today. I only posted the first segments of each but you can youtube them yourself if you so wish. And these are only a few of them, thats not including biker gangs or other various cartels that have branched into the U.S. Point is you will never be able to police the gun trade amongst those who live outside the law. Only cripple those who do. Watch and see for yourselves the what your up against and then tell me that banning guns from honest respectable Americans is the solution.

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TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,246	The problem with your figures is they don't refute my arguement. America can't be stacked against England because our states have different gun laws. And more importantly, they have different laws regarding the information I laid out as a better plan. As an example Texas in 2011 had a Firearms Murder rate of 3.19 for every 100,000 people. Conversely, Vermont has a .039 murder rate regarding firearms. Vermont has more lax gun control laws than Texas does, but it also has a Socialist Senator. Meanwhile, during Texas's massive wildfires, their governor told the population the best response is prayer. Its not guns. And you haven't told me how gun control would prevent the mass killings I suggested which are more effective and easier to pull off. __________________ I've moved to a new address

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12-15-2012, 03:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
Burning Down The Music Guru. Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Beyond the Wall Posts: 4,858	The NRA spends millions per year on lobbying, and because their lobbyists are so strong, I don't see the Obama administration getting as far with implementing stricter gun laws as they'd like to.