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12-14-2012, 09:26 PM | #111 (permalink) | |
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12-14-2012, 09:32 PM | #113 (permalink) | |
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And what exactly did loose gun laws do to HELP this situation that stricter guns would hurt? Did you hear of any reports of armed citizens returning fire on the gunman? |
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12-14-2012, 09:58 PM | #115 (permalink) |
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I could see stricter gun laws, but trying to banish them all together isn't the answer. Somehow the topic had switched to eradicating guns in general. My only concern for stricter gun laws is that people who respect guns and are responsible enough to have them would no longer be able to obtain them. Still with a tighter leash on the laws I just don't see it making a difference. None of us really know anything about this killer and even if he was a loner, that really doesn't play a role in how easily accessible a firearm is on the street. I don't have the answers either but I think armed security would be a start as FBD mentioned. Also the locking of doors and showing of identification before your allowed to enter as blastingas10 mentioned.
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12-14-2012, 10:08 PM | #116 (permalink) | |
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12-14-2012, 10:28 PM | #117 (permalink) | |
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a) The pro-gun crowd doesn't feel that it's the responsibility of gun producers and distributors to regulate how their product is used after purchase. Much like the automobile industry or the tobacco industry. And I agree with this. I personally am not a gun-nut so I don't care if the government imposes higher levels of restrictions to producers, sellers, or buyers. It wasn't too long ago that seatbelts in cars was a hot issue. I personally know some elderly people who still hate wearing seatbelts and won't acknowledge their necessity. Those geezers are obviously wrong. b) I disagree with you here and not specifically in the interest of pro-gun people. I think that legal gun dealers totally understand that guns get distributed illegally but don't feel that it's their responsibility to police such things any more than a pharmacist is responsible for prescription drug black market. They do their job. Imagine an pharmacist thinking "okay I followed the law but I hope that the guy with a script for oxycontin goes and sells it to school children" while smiling evilly. That probably doesn't happen much if ever. Same for legal gun dealers.
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12-14-2012, 10:32 PM | #118 (permalink) | ||
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I'm not saying you're implying that or anything, but I've seen multiple examples of it in this thread, not to mention in general every time a massacre happens, since 1999 where this became a hot ticket in the US media. I personally think the only people qualified to debate this issue in America are those who are capable of contextualizing it in such a way that considers factors that actually affect America without using another country with another history, population and criteria as some sort of "objective" comparison as to why one scenario would be better than the other. |
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12-14-2012, 10:38 PM | #120 (permalink) | |
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I only meant to address the 'a' and 'b' parts of your statement
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