Human Trafficking

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 06-25-2022, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayn Marx

If I can drag us back to the original topic for a moment.
Few realise women in China today are trafficked and too frequently abused in heterosexual relationship/marriages. I’ve witnessed men beating women in public with locals hardly even reacting. In private the cruelty is often worse.
I’m reminded of witnessing dogs being skinned alive in Chinese markets in front of tourists for the amusement our shocked reactions gave the locals.

https://www.theperspective.se/2012/0...omen-in-china/

That is just so awful. I can't believe in 2022 people are accepting women being beaten in public. I was in a abusive relationship and it dragged me through hell and back. It's all over Asia and Eastern Europe where women are forced into sexual trafficking. It makes me sick. I can't cope with the idea of animals being tortured either, who could live with themselves after doing that to a cat or dog?

Ayn Marx · 06-25-2022, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Celladorina

That is just so awful. I can't believe in 2022 people are accepting women being beaten in public. I was in an abusive relationship and it dragged me through hell and back. It's all over Asia and Eastern Europe where women are forced into sexual trafficking. It makes me sick. I can't cope with the idea of animals being tortured either, who could live with themselves after doing that to a cat or dog?

Live with that? How many of us who eat dead animals bother to learn how they’re slaughtered, let alone how they're treated while alive ?
As to taking into account how crayfish are boiled alive (under the delusion they taste better that way) and the same treatment dished out to an intelligent, conscious octopi ( is that the correct plural) and a repeated nightmare I have of intelligent alien creatures invading earth discussing the most flavoursome way of disposing of our kind. - - - - - - I could go on but - - - - - - -

Trollheart · 06-28-2022, 12:53 PM

Excuse me semi-hijacking your thread, but it does say it's about human trafficking, and with the horrific events in Texas yesterday I reckon this is the place, perhaps, to open a discussion on same.

Biden today said
"This incident underscores the need to go after the multi-billion dollar criminal smuggling industry preying on migrants and leading to far too many innocent deaths", but does it not rather highlight the desperation of Mexicans to get into the USA, and ask the question why the path to immigration is not being made safer for them? Or am I just completely misinformed? This is surely the sort of thing the Republicans will point to in the run-up to November, screaming about a wall again (though that would not have stopped a supposedly legitimate truck crossing the border). Nevertheless, Trump's foaming rhetoric about Mexicans is bound to re-enter the conversation, no?

Ayn Marx · 06-30-2022, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Excuse me semi-hijacking your thread, but it does say it's about human trafficking, and with the horrific events in Texas yesterday I reckon this is the place, perhaps, to open a discussion on same.

Biden today said
"This incident underscores the need to go after the multi-billion dollar criminal smuggling industry preying on migrants and leading to far too many innocent deaths", but does it not rather highlight the desperation of Mexicans to get into the USA, and ask the question why the path to immigration is not being made safer for them? Or am I just completely misinformed? This is surely the sort of thing the Republicans will point to in the run-up to November, screaming about a wall again (though that would not have stopped a supposedly legitimate truck crossing the border). Nevertheless, Trump's foaming rhetoric about Mexicans is bound to re-enter the conversation, no?

Point taken.
If I can shift the focus a little though. In these discussions little is said about the appalling conditions people have to live under in many Sth American nations. History tells us that part of the reason for this is a long history of America treating them as pieces on a chessboard to be moved around without being consulted. In some ways the crisis now flooding over the Mexican border is of the US’s making. My suspicion the situation will open a window for China to step in with a Sth American version of ‘Belts & Roads’.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United..._Latin_America

~~jwb~~ · 06-30-2022, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayn Marx

From another thread on a different forum section :-
I've highlighted below what I would like to have more information on please.

Here is the thread suitable for this content. I am really interested in your experiences.

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What does a peado look like?
The worst instance I’ve encountered directly was revealed by an AIDs patient I was caring for. His much older brother, a member of The Salvation Army, sold his young brother from age four to other members of The Salvation Army.

I’ll keep this as brief as I can. The trauma still lives with me.
The individual (lets call him Fred) was the ex-lover of a man in the terminal stages of AID’s. Tony asked us if we could find Fred before he departed the planet. Not easy as he was homeless. After a few days we found him and took him to meet Tony who died a few days later but not before asking me to give his ex lover a place to live. Stupidly I respected the dying man’s wishes. Soon after moving in with me Fred attempted on three occasions to rape me. Only my martial arts background stoped him in his tracks. I gave him a month to move out of my house. The same morning I went out to buy milk. When I returned there was no sign of Fred until I looked out the back window and saw he’d hung himself in my garage. The police attempted to prove I’d somehow killed him which added another layer of trauma.
I soon phoned Fred’s sister to tell her the bad news only to be greeted with “How much money did he have”? Some families are cursed.
There’s more to all this but I don’t enjoy talking about it to say the least.

He tried to rape you 3 times and you gave him a month to move out? You Aussies sure are hospitable lol.

Ayn Marx · 07-01-2022, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jwb

He tried to rape you 3 times and you gave him a month to move out? You Aussies sure are hospitable lol.

Yes, I gave him a month but moved out before he did given the lease had that long to run.
I’d made a death bed promise to his ex and felt I could handle him when he lost the plot. However, his third attack came from behind attempting to strangle me with a dressing gown cord so enough was enough.

I’d already been on a number of AID’s care teams where the client became psychotic due to the virus and that was harder to handle. Somewhat like ICE addicts they could acquire manic strength out of nowhere. We had a policy though of never looking after demented AIDs patients unless their were at least two of us.
Hope you don’t mind if I cease discussing this period. It’s a time I’ve tried to put well behind me. I was interviewed at length by a team from Sydney & Newcastle Universities about my care team experiences for a research project. I found doing so traumatic. Hope don’t mind if I cease discussing this period.

Trollheart · 07-01-2022, 06:28 AM

Nobody should have to share anything that's painful or embarrassing unless they want to. Anyone gives you ****, to hell with them. Very brave to speak up as you did, and if you're done with it, nobody should have a problem with that.

WWWP · 07-01-2022, 08:18 AM

Pretty sure she brought it up…
One must expect something so out of the ordinary will draw comment.

Trollheart · 07-01-2022, 08:31 PM

Not at issue. I'm responding to her "is it okay if I drop this" comment. I don't think she should even have to ask.

06-28-2022, 12:53 PM	#13 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	Excuse me semi-hijacking your thread, but it does say it's about human trafficking, and with the horrific events in Texas yesterday I reckon this is the place, perhaps, to open a discussion on same. Biden today said "This incident underscores the need to go after the multi-billion dollar criminal smuggling industry preying on migrants and leading to far too many innocent deaths", but does it not rather highlight the desperation of Mexicans to get into the USA, and ask the question why the path to immigration is not being made safer for them? Or am I just completely misinformed? This is surely the sort of thing the Republicans will point to in the run-up to November, screaming about a wall again (though that would not have stopped a supposedly legitimate truck crossing the border). Nevertheless, Trump's foaming rhetoric about Mexicans is bound to re-enter the conversation, no? __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

07-01-2022, 06:28 AM	#17 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	Nobody should have to share anything that's painful or embarrassing unless they want to. Anyone gives you ***, to hell with them. Very brave to speak up as you did, and if you're done with it, nobody should have a problem with that. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018*

07-01-2022, 08:31 PM	#19 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	Not at issue. I'm responding to her "is it okay if I drop this" comment. I don't think she should even have to ask. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018